[GREN-Exec] FW: We could do a quick survey

Susan H. Bryant shbryant at artsmail.uwaterloo.ca
Wed Oct 13 15:20:08 EDT 2010


Susan K's interpretation jibes with my experience. I agree we need to have the discussion with Lulu. Her passion is real and she allows herself to express it in a meltdown because she thinks it's effective for the cause. The emotions are real--but I also think she has choices and control over expressing them. We can tactfully make the point that we do not agree about the effectiveness and so request no public tears in GREN's name.

So that makes 4 cents. 

Susan B.     

-----Original Message-----
From: executive-bounces at gren.ca [mailto:executive-bounces at gren.ca] On Behalf Of Susan Koswan
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:50 PM
To: 'GREN Executive'
Subject: Re: [GREN-Exec] FW: We could do a quick survey

We need to deal with this. Can we call a GREN executive meeting and invite Lulu and very kindly mention these incidents, voice our concern and see how we can help? I broached the topic via email with her. I know that isn't the best approach, but I really got the impression she doesn't feel there's any problem. 

Her husband and family are wonderfully supportive. She's my Facebook friend, so I can see that she takes the time to bake birthday cakes for her husband, cook wonderful meals, go out to dinner, play stupid mindless Facebook games... I'm not friends with her beyond this rather superficial stuff, but I'm also wondering if this is just Lulu's personality and not a meltdown. Does anyone know her on a more personal level than this? 

That being said, I agree with the kind of public face we want for GREN. 

My 2 cents. 

Susan K

-----Original Message-----
From: John Jackson [mailto:jjackson at web.ca] 
Sent: October-13-10 2:31 PM
To: Kevin Thomason
Cc: Susan Koswan; GREN Executive
Subject: Re: [GREN-Exec] FW: We could do a quick survey

I strongly agree. We cannot risk an emotional outbreak in our name

John

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-10-13, at 2:21 PM, Kevin Thomason <kevinthomason at mac.com> wrote:

> I concur.  I think that if Lulu wants to attend on her own and  
> update us afterwards that is fine but I'm uncomfortable asking her  
> to represent us.
>
> Kevin.
>
> ----------------------------
>
> On 2010-10-13, at 2:15 PM, Gregory C. Michalenko wrote:
>
>> I am concerned about Lulu's emotional health.  A meeting I attended  
>> with her to meet MP Peter Braid was ruined by her rambling descent  
>> into tears, and a number of months later her acute breakdown at the  
>> Council of Canadians meeting in Guelph was troubling and  
>> heartbreaking, and I heard about the outcome at a meeting of  
>> Kitchener council.  We have to look out for her.  I think, at this  
>> time, it is best not to send her forth on our behalf to public  
>> events - she's too vulnerable, and I'm worried.
>> - Greg
>> ________________________________________
>> From: executive-bounces at gren.ca [executive-bounces at gren.ca] On  
>> Behalf Of Susan Koswan [dandelion at gto.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:26 PM
>> To: 'GREN Executive'
>> Subject: [GREN-Exec] FW: We could do a quick survey
>>
>> My only concern is that Lulu has a tendency to emotionally lose it  
>> at public events.  I also dont think we should be a top-down grou 
>> p, so let the group decide.
>> Susan K
>>
>> From: Louisette Lanteigne [mailto:butterflybluelu at rogers.com]
>> Sent: October-13-10 12:28 PM
>> To: John Jackson; dandelion at gto.net
>> Subject: We could do a quick survey
>>
>> Hi John and Susan
>>
>> I've only spoke with you two about this issue so far but if you  
>> like we could circulate this weblink to all GREN members, to  
>> determine if GREN wishes to be represented at the Our Water Our  
>> Lives event. This link will allow members to vote on the issue:
>>
>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/S9L8WRD
>>
>> I'll need to know by this evening at the latest if GREN wants me to  
>> go in their name.
>>
>> Lulu
>>
>>
>>
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