[All] Fw: The area of line 9 we saw on Nov. 11/2015

Thu Nov 12 10:10:43 EST 2015

Hi folks
I changed the privacy setting on the video so it should work better now. 
The bore holes they are getting here might not be as effective as they think. Usually features like this have seen lots of sediment changes by way of surface water influences. Sediment distributes in waves along hill slopes. Bore holes may pick up clay till but Ground Penetration Radar might see a completely different view as they did at the Arkell Research Centre in Guelph. 
In the attachment is a photo showing how Arkell is layed out. The hill slope gathers 7% of Guelph's water supply. 
I keep reminding folks of the logic that predates Christ by way of the bible. Deuteronomy 11 vs. 10-17 that speaks of the promised land God gave to Moses where the hills that drink the water. Just trying to show folks these things have been known for centuries. No wonder they named this particular location I saw yesterday, Zion. It's located just north of Port Hope. 
I was looking at Poussin's famous painting the Arcadian Shepherds. Lots of mysteries exist about the meaning. Arcadia was a paradise akin to the promised land theme. On the tomb are the worlds Et in Arcadia Ego which translates means I am in Arcadia. I being the dead guy aka death. Look at the barren hills in the background oddly shaped. Likely carved for the exposed aggregate. The tomb was crafted by a mason indicating a quarry in the area. The ground is dry perhaps as a result of the mismanagement of these land. Did they fail to have regard to the warnings of Deuteronomy?
Poussin did another one on this same thing years prior also called the Arcadian Shephards and he included the Legendary River God Alpheus. Clearly this area is the source of river. These things have been understood for centuries. Photos in attachments. 
Lulu 

      From: Michael Frind <mefrind at uwaterloo.ca>
 To: Louisette Lanteigne <butterflybluelu at rogers.com> 
Cc: "GREN >" <all at gren.ca> 
 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [All] Fw: The area of line 9 we saw on Nov. 11/2015

Hi Lulu,

Good field documentation that you made near Port Hope.  You raised a
number of excellent points regarding this 40-year-old, 30-inch-wide
Enbridge high-pressure oil pipeline and its long-term integrity.
Perhaps the Clarington area could be the next major spill area for
Enbridge.

The pipe being just one metre down is indeed a source of concern.
(Presumeably Enbridge means 1 metre of soil cover, so 1 metre from top
of pipe to ground surface, not one metre from pipeline centreline,
because that would make it even shallower.)  Enbridge would argue that
the pipe has been fine for years with road trucks driving on roads
that run over the pipeline.  Of course, pipelines incur aging and
deterioration too -- just like roads and other pieces of
infrastructure do (and like water pipelines also do).

As for farming equipment: officially, farmers are supposed to not
drive over the 20-metre-wide easement through which the pipeline runs,
and they are not supposed to disturb the soil more than 30 centimetres
down (and this rule holds both in the easement area and in a further
buffer that runs along the sides of the easement).  The problem is
that this rule has never been made clear and official, so there is no
way to enforce it.  So, for years, farmers have just treated the land
as if the pipeline was not there.

A minor point: With regards to the pavement cracking (photo 16), this
type of fine cracking seems to be more a result of
freezing-and-thawing over the years, combined with overly aged (and/or
poor-quality and too-thin) paving.  Meanwhile, the freshly-repaved
area (photo 13).  I don't see any evidence of water welling upwards at
the road pavement.

Also: I tried clicking on the YouTube video links that you provided,
and I always keep getting messages "this video is private".  Could
there be some software glitch somewhere?  Or, is some password
required (even though I cannot find anywhere to enter one)?

Thanks again for all your digging.
Michael.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Louisette Lanteigne
<butterflybluelu at rogers.com> wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> I went to the intersection of Line 4 and Zion Rd just north of Port Hope
> where Line 9 crosses high up on the marshy hilltops. It's all farmland
> around here and the angles are interesting for the high pressure oil and gas
> lines that cross here.
>
> The ground here is fantastic farmland. Soil is rich, high in organics and
> moisture yet the kind of dirt that falls apart perfectly in the hand. The
> farmlands have deep tire tracks filled with pools of water and it is clear
> they're growing crops directly above Line 9 with heavy equipment driving
> right over top compressing the soil. Wonder how close the till gets to that
> pipe. The farmer has no marking for the area where the pipeline crosses
> within in his field at all.
>
> I'm wondering if the farmer has any criteria to follow in terms of the
> weight of his farm machines, or the depth of his till. Is he instructed to
> avoid the pipe or is this just illegal activity? If he is prohibited from
> growing where the pipes are laid out who pays for the loss of his crops?
>
> There are an extraordinary number of stakes related to ongoing testing of
> Line 9 in this zone. Clearly there are lots of water issues here. The wood
> from the fence posts are rotting for all the moisture of this area. The
> posts are crooked and road cracked and full of potholes. There are  stress
> marks in the asphalt from both water welling up and surface pressures
> pushing down and the pipes go right under it from the hill top on one side
> to slope on the other side.
>
> Enbridge stated to me the line is buried 1 meter down on average. I'm
> wondering of the vibrations from the traffic and heavy farm machinery and
> how they impact the welds. They can't dig up the road without creating
> seismic vibrations.
>
> There was road work that took place above TransNorthern pipeline and
> TransCanada's natural gas lines with plans to do work around LIne 9.
> .
> Here are videos I posted up on Youtube and photos in the attachments.
>
> Videos of Zion
> Zion 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIVDH4hZmfQ
> Zion 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxfGdivG6aU
> Zion 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydEODhO4CMI
> Zion 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSddeBSFESI
> Zion commentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtScQzS_CTw
>
> Lulu
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