<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526"><span>Hi folks</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4815">I changed the privacy setting on the video so it should work better now. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4572">The bore holes they are getting here might not be as effective as they think. Usually features like this have seen lots of sediment changes by way of surface water influences. Sediment distributes in waves along hill slopes. Bore holes may pick up clay till but Ground Penetration Radar might see a completely different view as they did at the Arkell Research Centre in Guelph. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4676">In the attachment is a photo showing how Arkell is layed out. The hill slope gathers 7% of Guelph's water supply. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4773">I keep reminding folks of the logic that predates Christ by way of the bible. Deuteronomy 11 vs. 10-17 that speaks of the promised land God gave to Moses where the hills that drink the water. Just trying to show folks these things have been known for centuries. No wonder they named this particular location I saw yesterday, Zion. It's located just north of Port Hope. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526" dir="ltr">I was looking at Poussin's famous painting the Arcadian Shepherds. Lots of mysteries exist about the meaning. Arcadia was a paradise akin to the promised land theme. On the tomb are the worlds Et in Arcadia Ego which translates means I am in Arcadia. I being the dead guy aka death. Look at the barren hills in the background oddly shaped. Likely carved for the exposed aggregate. The tomb was crafted by a mason indicating a quarry in the area. The ground is dry perhaps as a result of the mismanagement of these land. Did they fail to have regard to the warnings of Deuteronomy?</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526" dir="ltr">Poussin did another one on this same thing years prior also called the Arcadian Shephards and he included the Legendary River God Alpheus. Clearly this area is the source of river. These things have been understood for centuries. Photos in attachments. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526" dir="ltr">Lulu </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4526"><span><br></span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4530"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4529"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4528"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4527"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4531"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Michael Frind <mefrind@uwaterloo.ca><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Louisette Lanteigne <butterflybluelu@rogers.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "GREN >" <all@gren.ca> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:54 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [All] Fw: The area of line 9 we saw on Nov. 11/2015<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4574"><br>Hi Lulu,<br><br>Good field documentation that you made near Port Hope. You raised a<br>number of excellent points regarding this 40-year-old, 30-inch-wide<br>Enbridge high-pressure oil pipeline and its long-term integrity.<br>Perhaps the Clarington area could be the next major spill area for<br>Enbridge.<br><br>The pipe being just one metre down is indeed a source of concern.<br>(Presumeably Enbridge means 1 metre of soil cover, so 1 metre from top<br>of pipe to ground surface, not one metre from pipeline centreline,<br>because that would make it even shallower.) Enbridge would argue that<br>the pipe has been fine for years with road trucks driving on roads<br>that run over the pipeline. Of course, pipelines incur aging and<br>deterioration too -- just like roads and other pieces of<br>infrastructure do (and like water pipelines also do).<br><br>As for farming equipment: officially, farmers are supposed to not<br>drive over the 20-metre-wide easement through which the pipeline runs,<br>and they are not supposed to disturb the soil more than 30 centimetres<br>down (and this rule holds both in the easement area and in a further<br>buffer that runs along the sides of the easement). The problem is<br>that this rule has never been made clear and official, so there is no<br>way to enforce it. So, for years, farmers have just treated the land<br>as if the pipeline was not there.<br><br>A minor point: With regards to the pavement cracking (photo 16), this<br>type of fine cracking seems to be more a result of<br>freezing-and-thawing over the years, combined with overly aged (and/or<br>poor-quality and too-thin) paving. Meanwhile, the freshly-repaved<br>area (photo 13). I don't see any evidence of water welling upwards at<br>the road pavement.<br><br>Also: I tried clicking on the YouTube video links that you provided,<br>and I always keep getting messages "this video is private". Could<br>there be some software glitch somewhere? Or, is some password<br>required (even though I cannot find anywhere to enter one)?<br><br>Thanks again for all your digging.<br>Michael.<br><br>On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Louisette Lanteigne<br><<a ymailto="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com" href="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com">butterflybluelu@rogers.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Hi folks<br>><br>> I went to the intersection of Line 4 and Zion Rd just north of Port Hope<br>> where Line 9 crosses high up on the marshy hilltops. It's all farmland<br>> around here and the angles are interesting for the high pressure oil and gas<br>> lines that cross here.<br>><br>> The ground here is fantastic farmland. Soil is rich, high in organics and<br>> moisture yet the kind of dirt that falls apart perfectly in the hand. The<br>> farmlands have deep tire tracks filled with pools of water and it is clear<br>> they're growing crops directly above Line 9 with heavy equipment driving<br>> right over top compressing the soil. Wonder how close the till gets to that<br>> pipe. The farmer has no marking for the area where the pipeline crosses<br>> within in his field at all.<br>><br>> I'm wondering if the farmer has any criteria to follow in terms of the<br>> weight of his farm machines, or the depth of his till. Is he instructed to<br>> avoid the pipe or is this just illegal activity? If he is prohibited from<br>> growing where the pipes are laid out who pays for the loss of his crops?<br>><br>> There are an extraordinary number of stakes related to ongoing testing of<br>> Line 9 in this zone. Clearly there are lots of water issues here. The wood<br>> from the fence posts are rotting for all the moisture of this area. The<br>> posts are crooked and road cracked and full of potholes. There are stress<br>> marks in the asphalt from both water welling up and surface pressures<br>> pushing down and the pipes go right under it from the hill top on one side<br>> to slope on the other side.<br>><br>> Enbridge stated to me the line is buried 1 meter down on average. I'm<br>> wondering of the vibrations from the traffic and heavy farm machinery and<br>> how they impact the welds. They can't dig up the road without creating<br>> seismic vibrations.<br>><br>> There was road work that took place above TransNorthern pipeline and<br>> TransCanada's natural gas lines with plans to do work around LIne 9.<br>> .<br>> Here are videos I posted up on Youtube and photos in the attachments.<br>><br>> Videos of Zion<br>> Zion 1 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIVDH4hZmfQ" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4664">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIVDH4hZmfQ</a><br>> Zion 2 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxfGdivG6aU" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4663">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxfGdivG6aU</a><br>> Zion 3 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydEODhO4CMI" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447339156948_4662">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydEODhO4CMI</a><br>> Zion 4 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSddeBSFESI" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSddeBSFESI</a><br>> Zion commentary <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtScQzS_CTw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtScQzS_CTw</a><br>><br>> Lulu<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> All mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:All@gren.ca" href="mailto:All@gren.ca">All@gren.ca</a><br>> <a href="http://gren.ca/mailman/listinfo/all_gren.ca" target="_blank">http://gren.ca/mailman/listinfo/all_gren.ca</a><br>><br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>