<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Eleanor and Lori,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Excellent questions and points. I would agree that the anti-environmental Conservatives nationally, inconjunction with Doug Ford, Brad Wall and Jason Kenney would be a disaster for the environment that our country might never recover from given the speed our climate is changing.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Lori, I agree that the Liberals need strong support and Eleanor, I think your approach of looking at things riding by riding has merit too. While the Liberals didn’t do enough on the environment in their first three years in power, this past year they have made some impressive progress on Protected Places and meeting out 2020 Achii targets for marine and land protection, finally introducing EV incentives, etc.. Most importantly, they have outlined a really strong environmental agenda for the years ahead. Places like Waterloo where Bardish Chagger (Liberal) is such as strong candidate it likely makes sense for citizens to do all that they can to ensure that she returns to Ottawa.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Other ridings such as Kitchener-Centre where Mike Morrice (Green) is poised to hopefully become the first Green Party MP outside of British Columbia could also be very important. Mike Morrice could have a tremendous impact similar to how Mike Schreiner provincially has had such an incredible impact as the only Green MPP.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ridings such as Kitchener-Conestoga where the Conservatives won by only 251 votes in the last election could also be very important. With the rapidly changing demographics of the riding there is a good chance that Harold Albrecht (Conservative) could lose his seat, though he is counting on the NDP, Liberals and Greens splitting the vote in such a manner that he is returned to Ottawa. Somehow with this riding already enduring Mike Harris Jr. we need to ensure a better outcome and more environmental awareness federally.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Overall, it is unfortunate that according to many recent polls we could be fighting endless cuts and issues from a Conservative Prime Minister for the next four years - we don’t have four more years with our current climate crisis. We all need to be doing everything that we can in the next week to get the best people elected and as many people to the polls as possible - particularly younger Canadians who tend to have the lowest voting rates but have the most to lose in the decades ahead as they will be trying to survive the climate crisis long after we are all gone.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Kevin.</div><div class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 17, 2019, at 10:37 PM, <a href="mailto:strothjkl@sympatico.ca" class="">strothjkl@sympatico.ca</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Its such a close race, nothing is for sure, and every vote matters right now…all I know is I definately don’t want the anti-environmental Conservatives, therefore I’m voting Liberal, although in a better voting system I would vote Green. Like them or not, The Liberals need as many votes as they can get right now or else we will have a Conservative government. Already many bots have been detected trying to sway the vote to favour Conservatives, so Canada’s democratic and pro climate change action future is at stake.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Lori S.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>All <<a href="mailto:all-bounces@gren.ca" class="">all-bounces@gren.ca</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Eleanor Grant<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:58 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>GREN2 <<a href="mailto:All@gren.ca" class="">All@gren.ca</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[All] Undecided<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Maybe I shouldn't put this on the GREN list, but I'm wondering if others are still undecided between NDP and Green, as I am. What guiding principles helped you decide? <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I generally say "Know your riding". Thus, Kit Centre - Green; Toronto-Danforth - NDP. (And even Regina-Wascana - Liberal, to keep Ralph Goodale's seat from going Con.) <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">But Waterloo is probably a safe Liberal seat. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">So I listened to my local candidates, and still have no preference. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Pros and cons: <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-Lori Campbell NDP is endorsed by<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://350.org/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">350.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>("Our Time"). <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-Greens rightly called out NDP on fracking. I'm dismayed by BC premier Horgan's approval of the LNG terminal, which will promote expansion of fracking in BC. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-Even worse are Horgan's support for Site C (which will flood prime farmland in the Peace and sacred Indigenous sites) *and* the clear-cutting of old-growth rainforest in the BC interior. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">How much should I be guided by a provincial NDP's record? (And the Greens were afraid to withdraw their support from the gov't over Site C.) <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-I also don't like the tone of the bickering between NDP and Greens, tho the Greens have been more gracious. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-Serious missteps by Eliz May early in the campaign, but on the debate stage she's the only leader who knows her stuff. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I guess I can see where I'm leaning. But I'd like to know how some of you went about deciding, or what you think I haven't considered. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Happy E-Day, <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Eleanor <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">All mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="mailto:All@gren.ca" class="">All@gren.ca</a></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="http://gren.ca/mailman/listinfo/all_gren.ca" class="">http://gren.ca/mailman/listinfo/all_gren.ca</a></span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>