<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><b>GRCA Watershed Forum 2011 Theme: Sustainable Watershed, Can we get there from here?</b></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><b>Barbara Veale</b> gave the intro, how the Bruntland Report formed the basis of the sustainabliity movement which basically states that development needs to have regard to the needs of the present and the future. </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><b>Jane Mitchell</b> gave her intro of various municipal officials. </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><b>Mayor Craig</b> stated: The Grand binds us. It is the connectivity and issues
of flooding shows the importance of why we need to work collaboratively.</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><b>Ken Seiling</b> stated: As the future points to growth targets we need to know how to best manage the river. </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><b>Brandford's mayor</b> stated the GRCA has planted 1.4 million trees but their goal is 50 million in the watershed. He presented Jane with a gift.</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><b>MP Woodworth</b> stated the Grand River is the jewel of Southern Ontario. The work of the GRCA has been a miracle in the middle of a large metropolis. He also stated that the Government of Canada is poised to address Canadian Waterways via Federal Development. </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,
helvetica, sans-serif; "><b>Joe Farwell of the GRCA</b> spoke of the 2011 Watershed Report featured in THE GRAND; Goals for the Grand. This will be circulated within the next week to 200,000 homes. </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ">This edition asks, what is the future for the Grand and speaks of the Watershed Management Plan which is a policy that will be created with a collaboration of the GRCA, Province, Federal Reps and First Nations. (No NGO's)</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ">The program is intended to pursue plans that are effective reasonable and practical. </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ">They intend to set targets to meet objectives</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ">The plan will focus on how we use and value H2O. </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ">The 5 subcategories will discuss water
supply, hydrologic function, biodiversity, culture/recreation/tourism, services ie: waste water treatment/storm water management.</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ">The public will be asked their opinion in a survey provided online and provided in the latest copy of The Grand. The online survey will take place in October.</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ">They intend to impliment a Softpath approach. Treating water as a service, Ecological sustainability is a priority, match water quality to water function, plan goals and work backwards to assess multiple options to achieve objectives. </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Dundas Buried Bedrock Ancient River Aquifer has been found after a 3 year
study. Analyzing it for possible future water supply. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">For our Waste Water plants, they are working to create the best effluent quality and reduce the need for upgrades. They want to do the best with what we have. (lesson from Guelph)</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">The Chlorine loading chart shows a decine in the use and less $ is being spent on Chlorine. They want to avoid spending millions on new infrastructure. </font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ">Chlorine smells are reduced in the river and we're seeing more birds and animals. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ">He thanked the Valeries
who have successfully restored wetlands in the watershed. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><b>Peter Victor, Prof. of Economy from York University & Author of Managing Without Growth: Slower By Design Not Disaster</b></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Bio here: </font><a href="http://www.pvictor.com/Site/Brief_Bio.html">http://www.pvictor.com/Site/Brief_Bio.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">To view the state of the economic system currently, envision a circle with the term economic cycle in the middle. Around the circle is a dynamic showing how firms produce goods and services to households who than provide land, labour and capital back to firms. This is
how the current economic model rotates. Problem is, environment was never factored into the loop and yet it encompasses all of it but trees and gravel are being depleted to provide for the land, labour and capital and water and air discharges are increasing as a result of goods and services being produced. The earth encompasses all of this and it has limits. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Global material extraction increased between 1900-2005 increasing the removal of biomass, oil, ores and minerals, and industrial fossil energy carries. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">It's having adverse impacts on our planet particularly in regards to biodiversity, nitrogen cycles and climate change. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"
face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Industrialization nearly wiped out Cod fisheries via Trawlers. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">In 1751, fossil fuel generated less than 1000 millitonnes into the environment. In 2001 it's over 9000 millitonnes and climbing dramatically. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Endless growth is a myth. Only 10 generations have experienced growth. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Conventional oil will be gone by 2030-2040. Technology may be helpful but it's not beneficial to the earth. The smaller the technologies, the more it enabled the creation of the massive earth movers of the
tar sands. The faster we process data, the more we can design tools to further deplete the earth with less effort. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Less efficient = less use!</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Just because a car is more efficient, people tend to drive more and it may actually take more effort to create an energy efficient car: ie: The Prius which requires platinum. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">In terms of energy intensitity, efficiency is improving on many items. by 24% but scale of growth + intensitiy = 60% overall energy use.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">We live in an unequal world. Most wealthy: North America and Europe. Income + Access to water is better in the wealthier communities. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">In terms of Growth: the End is widely published. The earth is literally running out of resources. The current growth is nonsustainable. If we were to plan for a low growth Canada, we can have jobs, balanced budget etc. It is possible. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">What makes economies grow? Macro reasons: Consumption, investments, Government and Trade. Micro: Labour, Capital, Productivity
and Supply. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Scenario 1/ If we continue to keep business as usual: Debt to Gross Domestic Product (GDP) will decline. Green house gas will go up. GDP per capita will go up and the poor will go up. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Scenario 2/ Without growth: Debt to GDP goes up, green house gas down, GDP per capita stablizes, Unemployment goes WAY up. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Scenario 3/ Better Low Growth/No Growth: Stablize GDP ratio, high and stable. Poverty is lowest, GHG stablized, Unemployment stablized lower, Debt to GDP ratio lower and stable. More specific funding would NOT be dependent on growth. It would be consistent.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Green Economy</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">GDP high in 2002, 593 Mega Tonnes Green House Gas. Scale and Intensity= output. It's projected it will increase to 734 mega tonnes in Canada. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">We need to get down to 95 mega tonnes by Green Growth. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">John Stewart Mill 1848 "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; ">I sincerely hope, for the sake of posterity, that they will be content to be stationary, long before necessity compel them to it."</span> </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Nobel Laurete Robert Solow advised we chose stability over growth. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">We need PUBLIC PRESSURE to stop growth. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Japan becoming an example due to externalized circumstances. No new immigration, isolated growth, aging population, It's a model for a different sort of growth,</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Institutions are very growth centric but people need to
be aware that business as usual is not coming back economically, The alternative has benefits including more leisure time, more equal society. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">________________________________</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Bob Gibson Professor of Environment and Resource Studies at U of Waterloo </b>and author of Sustainabilty Assessment Criteria and Process</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Growth Management strategy: to reduce adverse effects but not to reverse the trajectory.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">The current population in
the watershed is 956,000 and growth will increase to 1.6 million by 2056 with all similar per capita demands. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">We're using 150% global capacity currently, and much of the world doesn't have enough to eat. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Mitigation can't address increasing demand. Extending more use = more poverty. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">We need to cut 70-90% of the demands from wealthy countries. Find a better way to distribute gains more evenly. Streets can serve to transport more people with less traffic via bus and bikes than in cars. Better use for our existing infrastructure.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">Book recommendation: Perverse Cities by Pamela Blais: <a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Perverse-Cities-Hidden-Subsidies-Policy/dp/0774818956">http://www.amazon.ca/Perverse-Cities-Hidden-Subsidies-Policy/dp/0774818956</a></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Sprawl neglects externalized costs related to health and the ecosystems etc. Solution is to promote net benefit for sustainability but being "less bad" is not good. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">_________________________________</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><b><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">John Fitzgibbon Professor of Rural Planning and Development at University of
Guelph</font></b></div><div><b><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></b></div><div><span><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">People are the Problem/ People are the solution</font></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">The Grand River system do we want stable but degrading or stable but resilient? We're OK in some areas of the Grand but not OK in others. We can recover to a better state but if we fail, we will need to protect ourselves from the environment that we created. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Agriculturally pesticide applications declined by 60% from 20 years ago. This
reduced nutrient loads but now we have 40% more production. We need to think about the environment and future generations. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Re: Water conservation technology, the Ministry lobbied for water quality standards but the government is resisting. We need to change what we do as citizens behaviorally. Turn off taps brushing teeth etc. We can also change what we chose to purchase or consume. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Barriers to water conservation include: Limited knowledge and awareness, limited capacity due to less choice: All of us had to drive to the forum because there is no bus option. Limited support from
community/family and Ineffective government. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Benefits: Reduce infrastructure costs, Future water supply for future generations, Increased ability to deal with disasters, Adapt for climate change and predictability, improved quality of life, more robust ecosystem. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">________________________________</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><b><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Steve Hounsell President of Trees Ontario</font></b></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Growth
Sustainability is Rhetoric: folks have little clue, little public support or political will. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Ecological Sustainability means to live within limits and carrying capacity!</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Right now we have Green House Gas, depleted resources, loss of species, health care costs and a collapse of the economy is coming. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Deficit spending is using resources for 1.5 earths each year with a decline in clean air, water and food. Consequences at the Global level and our region is projected to grow to 1.6 million by 50 years. Ecologically we consume and emit wastes. We can amplify this. It takes 68,000
hectares to support 956,000. Renewably that's 8.5 hectares per capita according to the Global Footprint Network. <a href="http://www.footprintnetwork.org/en/index.php/GFN/">http://www.footprintnetwork.org/en/index.php/GFN/</a></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Currently 8 million are using 26,000 hectares in our watershed, T<b>hat means we are using 12 grand river watersheds worth of resources!</b> We take resources, export our wastes and still we face growth demands. There is an economic disconnect as Politicians strive to achieve growth. Denial and hope won't fix this. We need to Act. We have a global obligation. Balance the books with nature to work within natural limits. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Natural Resource Management needed = jobs. Reinvent Economy to solve the issues. Sustainability must be applied by
governments, public and industry. Eco efficiency, create closed looped systems to reduce impacts, Connect health to healthy environments and protect biodiversity and create inter generational equity. Vision 2020 as a vision for a sustainable future. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">_________________________________</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Murray Gamble President of C3 group of companies</b>.<b> Urban planner.</b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">-Reuse heritage buildings</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">-Brownfield Redevelopment: Don't waste the land</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">-Sustainable design and construction LEEDS</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">-Renewable Energy: Localized supply, not mega plant productions</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">-Smart use of energy: efficient products, recycled goods and greywater etc.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">-car free transportation options</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">-More greenspace and parks and waterfronts.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">-Result- Outstanding quality of life and economic competitiveness</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">-Cheap and easy often not the right choice for the environment.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"
face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><b><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Q and A </font></b></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Q- How can we convince public about low growth agenda in a time of economic problems?</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>John: </b></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ">We have significant management measures such as the Green Belt etc. They are inadequate but the 2 drivers to sustainability are:</span></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">1/ Municipalities and the Province. It's too costly
to sprawl. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">2/ People don't want quality of life to degrade. Self centered but powerful enough to make these shifts happen. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Steve:</b> </font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ">Government responds to public demand. Science knows what we need. Values are there. Think of our kids. Make it personal. Stop looking at GDP and look more at happiness and quality of life. </span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Bob:</b> People don't feel consequences yet. They do more, more easily now. Doing things
differently is the key. We assume kids will live our lives but they'll be the first less well off than us and after that generation they'll have even less. How will the future look at us? We can help them now. Bottom up will change this not top down. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">2/ How can we secure mandatory test times and methods to secure reasonable baseline data?</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>John:</b> Industry standards are not Government mandated but it is unethical to avoid doing them. Spending money on good studies...What's the rush to destroy? Developers push deadlines and funding is limited etc. We need to mandate tests and
methods. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Murray:</b> Brownfield is costly to begin with so don't drive those projects away. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">3/ So how can we get society to change? </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>John:</b> Advocacy: at all levels. Community/Government/Industry.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Steve:</b> Social movement to protect the
ecosystem. Limit growth. View the age of stupid: <a href="http://www.spannerfilms.net/films/ageofstupid">http://www.spannerfilms.net/films/ageofstupid</a> or how to boil a frog: <a href="http://howtoboilafrog.com/">http://howtoboilafrog.com/</a> . </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Vote with your wallet. how you spend shifts companies and practices. Companies reducing use of resources lowers costs, better long term protection of resources. Buying cheap externalizes costs to environment and health due to toxicity. Less waste with better design. <br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Bob:</b> I suggest two bumperstickers that say "We're doomed" or "I was going to be a pessimist but it probably wouldn't
work"</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">We're soft wired with feelings. Openings for subversive change is everywhere. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Re: Laurel Creek, they wanted to pave it from the lcbo to the beer store to manage storm water runoff but but the Laurel Creek Anti Tax people and Black Willow residents, mainly the elderly citizens who loved to feed ducks protested. 2% of the influence went to the environmentalists. Those who fed the ducks saved us from paving the river. If they could do this, there is hope!</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Q- What do we teach our kids? </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>John:</b> Bring them to the watershed. Help them to understand long term impacts. They can feed the ducks later on when their 85. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Steve: </b>Redo the education centers. Bring kids early before 12 or they'll never care without that exposure. Schools of business should teach the ecological links. Work with Ministry of Education to support more outdoor initiatives. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Bob:</b> Educate not only in schools. Cap and Trade needed. Talk about it with friends and neighbors. Bring kids to
farms. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Q: Steven Harper doesn't care about sustainability!</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Steve:</b> The electorate didn't make environment an issue. They need to demand more of government and industry.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>John:</b> Goverment responds to constituency but not enough people vote. Governments are risk adverse to new ideas, If they see the public doing something they'll know if it's a popular idea to support. </font></div><div><font
class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Bob: </b>We are too dependent on status quo system and it's wobbling. This government will pass. The GRCA can work towards a better way regardless. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">What about the Highland Quarry?</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>John:</b> A federal/provincial review panel is being proposed. The Highland Company will have to show a long term net gain. Standards and extraction standards will be up and other spectators will have this as an example to follow. They have to prove overall long term
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