<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Hi folks<div><br></div><div>Here is the feedback I've received today. I've responded since. I'll send that along.</div><div><br></div><div>Lulu<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 7/21/11, Dave Schultz <i><dschultz@grandriver.ca></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Dave Schultz <dschultz@grandriver.ca><br>Subject: RE: Highland Quarry is in Grand River watershed<br>To: "Louisette Lanteigne" <butterflybluelu@rogers.com><br>Cc: "Fred Natolochny" <fnatolochny@grandriver.ca>, "Gregg Zwiers" <gzwiers@grandriver.ca><br>Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 9:39 AM<br><br><div id="yiv1961477762">
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<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Hi Louisette,</span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">As I said in my earlier e-mail, when the source protection planning process was launched in Ontario, work was done to formalize the watershed boundaries. This
was done to sort out some anomalies that had been identified in watershed boundaries in several places in Ontario. It involved provincial government and conservation authority staff.</span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> </span></i></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">This was done under the “Ontario Regulation 284/07 – Source Protection Areas and Regions” which you can see here:
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.search.e-laws.gov.on.ca/en/isysquery/3e40cbb5-6d7e-40cf-a8b0-96ecd0a40f26/5/doc/?search=browseStatutes&context=#hit1">
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<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">(Note: Under the Clean Water Act, a Conservation Authority’s area of jurisdiction is known as a “source protection area.”)</span></p>
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<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">The regulation says:</span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">(2) The boundaries of each source protection area established under section 4 of the Act are altered to the boundaries described for the area on a CD-ROM disk labelled "Source Protection Area Boundaries V
2.0" and dated November 25, 2009 that is kept in the office of the Director of the Ministry's Source Protection Programs Branch. O. Reg. 285/10, s. 1 (1).</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Version 1.0 of the map was dated May 15, 2007. A new map (V 2.0) was produced in 2009 to reflect
updates relating to conservation authorities in the Trenton area and the regulation was amended in 2010. Our boundary was not affected by amendment.</span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">The boundary identified in Reg. 284 is the one we use for all our business and is the one shown on
the map attached to our submission to the MNR on the Highland Quarry application.</span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">You can use our on-line mapping tool to see the watershed boundary as contained in the regulation.
Click on “Create a map” on this page of our website: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.grandriver.ca/index/document.cfm?Sec=63&Sub1=0&sub2=0">
http://www.grandriver.ca/index/document.cfm?Sec=63&Sub1=0&sub2=0</a> Once you are in the mapping tool, select “Layers” and then “Jurisdictions” and you can click on the check box to turn on either “watershed boundary” or “source protection boundary”</span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">I trust this clarifies the matter sufficiently and that we can now bring this discussion to a close.</span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal" style=""><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Dave Schultz</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">
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<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Louisette Lanteigne [mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> July-20-11 11:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dave Schultz<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Highland Quarry is in Grand River watershed</span></p>
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<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Hello Mr. Schlutz</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
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<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">First off I'd like to thank you for the response you've provided. It is greatly appreciated to have someone willing to dialogue on issues of this nature. It's an overwhelming
project so it's important that we clarify what maps are being used by whom.</span></p>
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<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Is the official stance of the GRCA that the map which I provided to you in my previous letter on July 20th as produced by <span class="yiv1961477762apple-style-span"><span style="background:white;">Helen
Purdy of Stantec is incorrect?</span></span></span><span style="background:white;"><br>
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</span><span class="yiv1961477762apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;background:white;">Also, if the delineation of the mapping was changed, what specific scientific data was used to support that decision? I would like to personally
review that material if possible. Do you know what date this delineation was authorized and by whom? Did all the affected conservation areas partake in this decision?</span></span></p>
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<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1961477762apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Please respond in writing. </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
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<p class="yiv1961477762MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1961477762apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Louisette Lanteigne</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">--- On <b>
Wed, 7/20/11, Dave Schultz <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dschultz@grandriver.ca" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dschultz@grandriver.ca">dschultz@grandriver.ca</a>></i></b> wrote:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
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From: Dave Schultz <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dschultz@grandriver.ca" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dschultz@grandriver.ca">dschultz@grandriver.ca</a>><br>
Subject: RE: Highland Quarry is in Grand River watershed<br>
To: "Louisette Lanteigne" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=butterflybluelu@rogers.com">butterflybluelu@rogers.com</a>><br>
Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 3:47 PM</span></p>
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<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Hi Louisette,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Thanks for your e-mail. We have had that question come up several times, so we have examined it fairly closely.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">The map you attached does not show the current, official, legal watershed boundary.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">I’ve attached a copy of our submission to the MNR from April 26 which shows the boundary.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">I’ve also attached another map from the Highland submission which also shows the boundary.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Watershed boundaries were adjusted a few years ago as part of the source protection planning process. It is possible that Stantec used an older watershed
boundary map but you would have to ask them that question.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">In any event, the small area that has attracted your interest may have been a pocket which did not drain to either the Nottawasaga or the Grand systems.
In pre-settlement, pre-farming days it may have been a wetland with no surface water outlet.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">It’s up to you to decide which map you want to accept.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">However, as to your larger point, we are, of course, aware that surface and groundwater flows can, and often are, different.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">We have said consistently that we are indeed concerned about potential impacts from the Highland Quarry on groundwater in the Grand River watershed
particularly in the area near the site.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">We have also said that we do not yet have enough information from Highland to determine exactly what that impact will be under different scenarios
(e.g. pumping, no pumping, etc.).</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Our comments to the ministry spelled out the nature of our groundwater concerns in considerable detail. I trust you’ll find them informative.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Dave Schultz</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">
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<p class="yiv1961477762msonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Louisette Lanteigne [mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> July-20-11 2:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dave Schultz<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Highland Quarry is in Grand River watershed</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p>
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According to the map in the attachment, the Highland Quarry is taking place in parts of the Grand River Watershed. Have Grand RIver Conservation Authority Staff reviewed this? It is produced by Stantec.
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The fact is, current watershed delineation is only based on surface topography without any regard to the subsurface connectivity. The MODFLOW used for the Highland Quarry was based on the premise that the aquifers are contained when in fact they are not. They
connect to our watershed. <br>
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I've spoken with the elders of the Mohawk Turtle Clan who have stated that for generations they knew this area to be the headwaters for the Grand because the underground water flows our direction. As the wells were dug here, they found fish under ground. The
current flows to the Grand River. <br>
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Does the GRCA have regard for the subsurface geology of the area when they state it is outside of our watershed? Have staff had the chance to view the attached map?
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In light of the attached map, is it still the view of the GRCA that our watershed will not be affected by this project?<br>
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Please respond in writing. <br>
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Thank you kindly for your time.<br>
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Louisette Lanteigne<br>
700 Star Flower Ave.<br>
Waterloo Ontario<br>
N2V 2L2</p>
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