<br>Excellent research and comments, Lulu! Keep up the great work!<br><br>Here are just a few points (in no particular order; these are just my scribbles) as they come to mind. The Melancthon case is both intriguing and appalling. <br>
<br>Melancthon has a very thoughtful mayor (Bill Hill), who makes it clear that listening to the people is key. And, no one (other than the people poised to benefit financially) wants this mega quarry.<br>
<br>The Melancthon township people are correct in that the proposed limestone quarry, which will extend below the water table and mine out the Amabel dolostone, will be very detrimental to water supplies (both quality and quantity). In this multi-rivers headwaters area, river-ecology impacts are to be expected. Premium aquifers would be permanently damaged, and premium farmland would be lost forever. <br>
<br>How MNR Ministry Linda Jeffrey could so callously say that Melancthon should simply accept the proposed quarrying unquestioningly and have golf course is beyond me. But it's scary to think that she's a minister who is expected to represent the public interest.<br>
<br>This Jeffrey comment (which some would consider scandalous) is something that should be in the mainstream press (not just in Shelburne, but all the big newspapers: Toronto, K-W and Guelph areas). Maybe some sort of press release should be sent to the big papers.<br>
<br>A good background article on this is at <a href="http://www.water-watch.ca/water/aggregate/279-melancthon.html" target="_blank">http://www.water-watch.ca/water/aggregate/279-melancthon.html</a>. This article, which appeared in the Toronto Star, quotes a formula which values the Amabel dolostone at up to $18 million per acre, which would work out to about $43 billion for 2400 acres of extraction. Even if the actual realized value were just a fraction of that (depends on market vagaries as well formation thickness: Amabel is about 75 m thick in this part of Ontario), it would still be a lot of money -- more than enough to please the man behind it: mega-heavyweight investor Seth Klarman (he's in the same league as Warren Buffett and George Soros).<br>
<br>Seth Klarman's Baupost Group (Highland Company) now owns thousands of acres in the area. Their approach is clever: buy a huge amount of land, use only a fraction of it for aggregate extraction now, declare the rest for farming (so they can claim they're farmers), and thus have land that will provide a steady source of crushed rock for many decades to come. Over time, they just keep expanding their pits until they're covered the entire area. It's the perfect investment strategy for a very wealthy man who has lots of assets and who wants to get richer at low risk. (Seth Klarman has been averaging a 20% rate of return on his investments...and these types of low-risk, high-yield investments are only available to people with very deep pockets.)<br>
<br>On the aggregate page of the Melancthon (<a href="http://www.melancthontownship.ca/aggregateupdate.htm">http://www.melancthontownship.ca/aggregateupdate.htm</a>) website, there
are two separate projects mentioned. The first is the proposed Highland mega-quarry, for which no technical documents have been posted yet. But further down the page, there are links to documents pertaining to a proposed Strada Aggregates gravel pit
above the water table. Unfortunately, because the Strada project documents appear on that same webpage as the proposed Highland quarry, some readers (e.g. those using Google to find documents) might get the two mixed up. The proposed Baupost/Highland quarry will entail drilling, blasting, and quarrying of limestone from below the water table, then crushing it because angular aggregate is what is used for roadbed construction. The Strada project stays above the water table, and simply entails shovelling off of the overburden layers and selling the sand and gravel as is. Such sand and gravel is for general use, such as for making concrete or covering tar-and-gravel roofs. It is a completely separate product from crushed limestone rock.<br>
<br>I think Minister Linda Jeffrey may have confused the two projects. (She seems to be the only person who confused them. No one else has made this mistake.) The Strada gravel pit project will still change the landscape (it may be possible to rehabilitate it to a [pesticide-free] golf course, but returning it to productive farmland after sand-gravel removal would be infeasible). In contrast, the Highland/Baupost/Klarman limestone quarry would forever be a big hole (sort of like the Elora Quarry, but much, much bigger). Quarrying below the water table is much, much more damaging than a simple sand-gravel pit above the water table.<br>
<br>Big foreign investment companies, like big land developers, have lots of lobbying power. Highland/Baupost has been lobbying hard to smooth the way for its quarry proposal. The classic Golden Rule appears once again: Whoever has the gold makes the rules.<br>
<br>Some additional comments on the proposed quarry can be found here: <a href="http://melancthontownship.ca/officialdraft/reviewed-submissions-sept13.pdf" target="_blank">http://melancthontownship.ca/officialdraft/reviewed-submissions-sept13.pdf</a><br>
<br>On a more positive note: in that WaterWatch/Star article, it was noted that the Holland Marsh has been protected against development
by an "agricultural specialty crop" designation. If we were able to help the Melancthonians to lobby for such a designation on their high-quality Honeywood silt-loam soil (a huge swath of which would be lost by the proposed quarrying), then thousands of acres of pristine aquifer and prime farmland would be spared.<br>
<br>Michael.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/3/9 Louisette Lanteigne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com" target="_blank">butterflybluelu@rogers.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top"><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 3/9/11, Louisette Lanteigne <i><<a href="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com" target="_blank">butterflybluelu@rogers.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Louisette Lanteigne <<a href="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com" target="_blank">butterflybluelu@rogers.com</a>><br>
Subject: Fw: Melancthon and Waterloo aggregate issues<br>To: <a href="mailto:Scarpaleggia.F@parl.gc.ca" target="_blank">Scarpaleggia.F@parl.gc.ca</a><br>Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 3:41 AM<br><br><div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">FYI<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 3/9/11, Louisette Lanteigne <i><<a href="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com" target="_blank">butterflybluelu@rogers.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Louisette Lanteigne <<a href="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com" target="_blank">butterflybluelu@rogers.com</a>><br>
Subject: Melancthon and Waterloo aggregate issues<br>To:
<a href="http://dmcguinty.mpp.co" target="_blank">dmcguinty.mpp.co</a>@<a href="http://liberal.ola.org" target="_blank">liberal.ola.org</a>, <a href="http://ljeffrey.mpp.co" target="_blank">ljeffrey.mpp.co</a>@<a href="http://liberal.ola.org" target="_blank">liberal.ola.org</a>, <a href="http://jwilkinson.mpp.co" target="_blank">jwilkinson.mpp.co</a>@<a href="http://liberal.ola.org" target="_blank">liberal.ola.org</a>, <a href="mailto:rbartolucci.mpp@liberal.ola.org" target="_blank">rbartolucci.mpp@liberal.ola.org</a>, <a href="http://cmitchell.mpp.co" target="_blank">cmitchell.mpp.co</a>@<a href="http://liberal.ola.org" target="_blank">liberal.ola.org</a><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:hhampton-qp@ndp.on.ca" target="_blank">hhampton-qp@ndp.on.ca</a>, <a href="mailto:toby.barrett@pc.ola.org" target="_blank">toby.barrett@pc.ola.org</a>, <a href="mailto:ernie.hardeman@pc.ola.org" target="_blank">ernie.hardeman@pc.ola.org</a>, <a href="mailto:bill.murdoch@ontla.ola.org" target="_blank">bill.murdoch@ontla.ola.org</a>, <a href="mailto:jerry.ouellette@pc.ola.org" target="_blank">jerry.ouellette@pc.ola.org</a>, <a href="mailto:mprue-qp@ndp.on.ca" target="_blank">mprue-qp@ndp.on.ca</a>, <a href="mailto:tabunsp-qp@ndp.on.ca" target="_blank">tabunsp-qp@ndp.on.ca</a>, <a href="mailto:bill_hill@sympatico.ca" target="_blank">bill_hill@sympatico.ca</a>, <a href="mailto:trunorth1849@rogers.com" target="_blank">trunorth1849@rogers.com</a><br>
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 3:32 AM<br><br><div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Dear Minister <span>McGuinty</span> and Hon Ministers.<br>
<br>A letter from the Mayor and Deputy Mayor of Melancthon to
Premier McGuinty regarding the Highland Hill Mega Quarry, a project that proposes a 2,316 acre below the water table limestone quarry in the Township of Melancthon. This letter has recently been posted on Melancthon's website at this
link:</span></font><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br><br></span></font>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://melancthontownship.ca/aggregateupdate/mcguinty-letter.pdf" target="_blank">http://melancthontownship.ca/aggregateupdate/mcguinty-letter.pdf</a> <br>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span> </font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The document contains the following statements:</span></font><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> <br>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><i>"...we feel that her (Minister of
Natural Resources) comments and lukewarm attention to what was being relayed to
her...were indicative of the fact that our submission did not interest her
whatsoever. In fact, the impression we got, was that the ink was already
on the rubber stamp."</i></span></font></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font size="2"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-style: italic;">“it is too bad that this has split
your community apart. It is your job to get your community back together, get
them to think long term about rehabilitation, because his will not be going back
to agriculture, but maybe you could get a nice golf course.” (Linda Jeffrey,
Minister of Natural Resource)</span></i></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>
In response, I have included the following two power points as seen in the attachments.</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>
</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The first power point is specific to Melancthon and clearly illustrates that
this
proposal for a mega quarry at this location reflects bad planning.</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I've also included an informational power point illustrating how similar aggregate concerns are being raised in Waterloo Region as well. <br>
</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">In my view it is unforgivable to allow the depletion of municipal water resources and A1 farmlands to be exploited in a non renewable manner. If we allow this, it will result in significant externalization of costs for taxpayers to have to replace their pristine water supplies with pipelines to sources that are already at risk. The farmlands being sacrificed have taken generations to establish. <br>
</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The
Environmental Commissioner Gord Miller stated in his annual report that the Provincial Growth Plan was established before the future water and wastewater infrastructure was identified, and their associated costs and environment impacts, were assessed. This clearly indicates that provincial policies, such as the Growth Plan, favor economic development over sustainable planning processes. Not only does the Growth Plan fail to require that population allocations be adjusted for communities with watersheds close to or already at carrying capacity, it favors large-scale infrastructure projects to overcome natural limits.</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Minister Jeffrey, to imply that a golf course would be in any way compensate for the destruction of these valuable farmlands and vital water supply is highly disrespectful towards the generations of citizens who call this place home. The comment appears to disregards the dedicated farmers who have been excellent stewards these remarkable lands for generations. The next time you eat Ontario grown foods I sincerely hope you are thankful that we have people in this province who's lives have been dedicated in service to provide such food for the convenience of you and your family, that your life may be free of the burden to have to grow it yourself. At a time when the world's major aquifers are already going dry and farmers struggle to maintain their trade, we should not take these good people or these blessed lands for granted. They
have supported lives for centuries. <br></span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>
</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ontario residents are demanding long term security of their jobs, their local food and water supplies in order to reasonably assure these key pillars are in place for generations to come. The aggregates are worth a pittance compared to the value of having an established renewable localized food and water supply. We have yet to reasonably quantify the natural capital value of the aggregates, water and farming resources of this area. Whatever the value is consider it in perpetuity. These
lands have been productive for thousands of years. Until a natural capital value has been placed on the aggregates, water and farmlands we cannot reasonably plan appropriately. <br></span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Unless you can reasonably protect the function of the aggregates in regards to gathering, transporting water resources, it is irresponsible to peruse this project. Unless you can replicate the natural flow and flow rates and water quality going into tributaries and lakes, we should not support the unsustainable exploitation of these
key
aquifer resources.</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Historically, the human need for asphalt roads only stared in the1800's with the use of cars. With light rail systems we could in theory totally circumvent the need for roads. In regards to the human need for food and water, that has lasted for millions of years and since that time these basic resources are still to this day, absolutely irreplaceable. <br>
</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">We need governance that support the long term pillars of life to protect people and communities above corporate greed and outdated schemes.</span></font><font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br></span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">The public has awakened to the fact that when corporate priorities over-influence government priorities, democracy crumbles. On occasion it appears that there are destruction for profit scenarios
manifesting which utilize flawed Environmental Impact Studies. Often times various experts assume the public won't take notice of the details but we now live in an enlightened society where citizens are taking notice and when that happens, science must reasonably represent the matter based on facts.<br>
</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br></span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> Please do not exceed the natural carrying capacity of the lands and prioritize water source protection and food security above aggregate needs to secure the long term prosperity, food and water security of Ontario. <br>
</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br><font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"></span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Invest in rails to offset roads, recycle aggregates, or explore options of synthetic aggregates which can be produced from a wide diversity of products including sewage sludge, pulverized fuel ash,slag, recycled plastics, recycled glass and other recycled materials</span><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="3"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: 13px; text-align: left;"></span></span></font></font><font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span></font><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: left;"></span></span><font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">as shown here: <br>
</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font size="3"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theconcreteproducer.com/industry-news.asp?sectionID=1419&articleID=554044" target="_blank">http://www.theconcreteproducer.com/industry-news.asp?sectionID=1419&articleID=554044</a></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br><font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Sludge from wastes can build viable roadways. <br></span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20091410-19999.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+sciencealert-latestnews+%28ScienceAlert-Latest+Stories%29" target="_blank">http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20091410-19999.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+sciencealert-latestnews+(ScienceAlert-Latest+Stories)</a></p>
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>
</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">As we divert wastes for aggregate production we reduce dependency on
landfills. We need to start looking at other options to provide for our aggregate needs in Ontario and stop exploiting our aquifers for short term non renewable fiscal gains. To save the water and farmlands for the long term, along with the economic systems dependent on these water systems, we must save the aggregates. <br>
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<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thank you kindly for your time.</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br>
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Louisette Lanteigne</span></font></p>
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