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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>FYI,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Following up to Ken Seiling’s response to the anti-LRT survey,
is their response. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Susan K<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#2A2A2A'>To Ken Seiling:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Thank you for your detailed response. We apologize for the delay
in responding (one of our members was out of town).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Your reply seems to assume that we are against improved public
transit. Nothing could be further from the truth. A large part of our
opposition to LRT is because we think it is a costly white elephant that will
waste transit resources and threaten the overall transit system in the Region
for decades to come.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>We are disappointed to hear that you feel our questions are
misleading or incorrect. We have spent a great deal of time over the last two
years trying to get the facts straight about LRT. Despite attending the public
forums, carefully reading the LRT web site and contacting regional
transportation staff directly, it has not been easy to get the facts about this
proposal. However, we feel confident that our questions are fair. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Furthermore, what we are saying has been widely expressed in
public, including in articles and letters to the editor in local newspapers.
If, for example, you are really certain that the LRT will not disrupt King
Street traffic, left turns, parades or the Busker Festival, then we urge you to
make a commitment to that effect in writing, in public, on the LRT site. Until
then, our research has shown that there will be major disruptions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#2A2A2A'>As to your other points, we </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>have added some</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2A2A2A'>
replies, inline, in your email.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#2A2A2A'>Sincerely,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#2A2A2A'>T4ST members</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Ken Seiling <<a
href="mailto:watgang@golden.net">watgang@golden.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
have attached my response to your questionnaire and have taken the liberty of
copying other candidates.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>To: Taxpayers for Sensible Transit<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>From: Ken Seiling<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Re: Your Survey<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>During elections, I receive many surveys. For the most part,
I find them to be fair and generally seeking opinions on certain issues. I am
aware of your opposition to the rapid transit project but I am somewhat taken
aback that you would frame survey questions with misleading or incorrect
information and then ask for a response based on them. <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>You suggest that the Region lacks
a significant downtown business district or commuter employment hub.
In fact, the federally- sponsored feasibility study and the subsequent
environmental assessment both identified that, with the linear pattern of
the three cities and employment and population concentrations, we already
have sufficient ridership in the northern cities to justify a system
that will only grow as intensification takes place. In fact we are better
positioned than others such as Calgary when they began their project. The
system will run passengers both ways rather than one way only. You may
wish to reread the studies, the environmental assessment, and the
reviews by the panel of experts who peer reviewed the work.</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:red'>>>T4ST: Please see </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2A2A2A'><a
href="http://news.therecord.com/article/654719" target="_blank"><span
style='color:red'>http://news.therecord.com/article/654719</span></a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red'>,
“Numbers don’t add up for light rail transit” by John Shortreed, published in
the Waterloo Regional Record on January 12, 2010.</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2A2A2A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Your costing of $819 million has
been inflated by adding costs that would not be necessary until the system
grew in later years. The project recommended by Regional Council is $790
million. No rapid transit system of which I am aware has been built in one
fell swoop. All are staged . Although not envisioned in the
feasibility study or contemplated in the terms of reference for the first
phase environmental assessment, Council went one step further to recommend
added funds to provide an Adapted Bus Rapid System in Cambridge in order
to advance the ridership and development necessary to justify the build
out of the LRT in the second phase. </span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:red'>>> T4ST: The figure of $819M is from the Region's
business case to the Provincial and Federal governments (page 40, labeled</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2A2A2A'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red'>Grand
Total Capital Expenditure</span><span style='color:red'>)</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red'>. This
figure is now nearly a year old and costs will have risen, so we consider it
conservative.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#2A2A2A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>It is strange that you do not
speak of the impacts or costs that must be faced by not proceeding. It is
estimated that up to 500 lane kilometres of road will have to be built to deal
with the growth expected in the next 20 years. I understand that by building
the LRT and creating a better modal shift it is estimated to reduce that by
more than 40%. We would be able to reduce the road building requirement
by approximately 213 lane kilometers. Depending on the complexity of the
work, a lane kilometer of urban road can cost between $700,000 to $1,200,000.
At the low end, that would save more than $149 million – at the high end up to
$256 million, much of which would be raised on property taxes. Not only would
the financial impacts be severe and the traffic issues horrendous, there
would the impact of destroying neighbourhoods to try to widen roads where
possible.<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:red'>>> T4ST: We are agreed that transit needs to be improved.
We do not believe that LRT will improve transit.</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>One need only look at the GTA where
they have spent the last 25 years trying to build roads rather than rapid
transit. The traffic problems there would soon be present here and people who
may not use transit would find their use of their cars much more
difficult. We are already seeing the beginnings of peak time build ups on many
roads.<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Another reason to look at the GTA
is to see the astronomical costs being faced by the area in trying to retrofit
it after the fact. In reality, they are now precluded from doing it right and
are faced with the sprawl which grew up without good transit in place.<span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The building of the Expressway in
Kitchener would never happen if opponents and naysayers had been successful in
blocking it. Kitchener and Waterloo took a bold, brave, and future looking stand
when they agreed to fund it. London did not and rues the choice to this day. <span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:red'>>>T4ST: The Conestoga Expressway cannot be used to justify
LRT. Arguing that it does is tantamount to claiming that every large
transportation idea should be implemented, regardless of details.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2A2A2A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>You are suggesting that there
will be a 9% increase in property taxes. Since you do not know the final
plan or the financing proposals, I am interested how you can give a
number. Regional Council has neither discussed or approved a final
design or costing, nor has it considered financing options. Your
predictions are somewhat premature. It is important to note that you have
not costed the impacts of the road building requirements mentioned above
on property taxes.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:red'>>>T4ST: The 9% figure </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red'>comes from Jeff Outhit's
reporting of the cost of financing the Region's share of the current plan. The
number is based on regional reports. The estimate is based on every $50 million
in regional capital outlay requiring a 1.1 percent increase in regional taxes,
with operating costs adding another 3.4 percent increase in taxes.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red'> (1.1 x
5) + 3.4 = 8.9% increase. Sean Strickland also reports this figure on his
campaign web site.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo4'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>You suggest that there will be road
disruptions and that the Oktoberfest parade will be affected. The LRT will
be a street-level rail technology, generally on either existing roads or
rail corridors. Left turns, U turns and driveway access will all be
accommodated in the design. Modern electrical wires used to power
new LRT systems are quite unobtrusive and fit into the streetscape. Two
way traffic will remain on roads which have LRT. The suggestion that the
Oktoberfest Parade will have to move is a complete red herring and
inaccurate. Parades will still be able to travel along King Street. </span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:red'>>>T4ST: Your statements here contradict what we have been told
by regional transportation staff. In addition,</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2A2A2A'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red'>Larry
Blundell confirmed personally in a meeting with one of us last year that there
are concerns by the Oktoberfest committee that the parade would be disrupted
and he approved the circulation of a flyer at the 2009 parade to raise the
issue with the public.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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against an LRT system for the Region. Perhaps it would be more to the
point if you asked people if they were for or against urban sprawl,
gridlocked traffic, damaged neighbourhoods, huge property tax increases
for road building, and a whole host of problems that this Region will
experience if it fails to move the community forward rather than freeze it
in a model that has proved to be such a disaster for the GTA and which is
being abandoned in cities across North America.</span><span lang=EN-US
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color:red'>>>T4ST: Again, you misrepresent us. We are not against
transit. We are against this one particular proposal.</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Waterloo Region has been
successful because it has always kept its eye on the future. The Rapid Transit
project is something that is critical to the future of this Region just as was
the building of the Expressway or the creation of the University of Waterloo by
people who looked ahead. For those of us in my generation and older, we need to
remind ourselves that we have children and grandchildren who deserve to have a
healthy, successful, and thriving community. <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red'>>>T4ST:
We feel equally strongly that the future of our community is at risk because of
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