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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Dear All</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I had with a few helpers, gathered 77+69 signatures on a
petition against the re-zoning for the Gas Bar/Car Wash as well as 29 signatures
from Caledon, Mississauga, Scarborough, Stoffville, Toronto, Milton and Oakville
well knowing the last 29 did "not count". Just wanted to show that people
outside Kitchener cared.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Paul Britten stated at the committee meeting Sept 13th that a
sign had been posted on the property and that letters had been Hand Delivered to
people in the area.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Nobody has seen the sign nor any evidence that there have ever
been one. What happened to those letters nobody knows because so far I have not
found anybody who received any one of those letters. As a matter of fact the
re-zoning appeared to be news to all the people as they signed the
petition.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>As for the 45 letters council claimed on Monday Sept 20th to
have mailed via Canada Post on July 16th, 2010; they must have
gone to the same place where the sign and the hand delivered letters went. On
Sept 23 no mention was heard about Paul Briton claims re sign and hand delivered
letters. Only that the sign had been ordered, picked up and paid
for.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Alain Pinard of Planning Act Department make a big deal
of telling me that all the city had to do legally was post notice in the paper,
which they did, so it is interesting that anybody made the statements
regarding the sign, Hand Delivered letters and letters sent via Canada
Post.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Other
cities know better than deal with this kind of matter during the summer time
when many people are away, What was the hurry one must ask?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=718304022-24092010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>Alicia</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Louisette Lanteigne
[mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 24, 2010
5:48 PM<BR><B>To:</B> all@gren.ca; Ginny Quinn<BR><B>Cc:</B>
alicia.pokluda@sympatico.ca<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [All] Challenges we still
face on Source Protection<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Hi Ginny<BR><BR>Kitchener Council clearly admitted there
was no EIS study conducted in regards to the Gas Bar on the evening of the
vote. Council did state however, that the proposal was approved by the
GRCA and that it was part a subwatershed review but THERE WAS NO
EIS. Contact Councillor Vrbanic or Kelly Galloway because they were the
two council members who debated this issue the most that evening.
<BR><BR>Technically speaking, the current ROPP would prohibit this kind of
proposal from happening at a location like this but because the ministry
has yet to approve the current version of the ROPP, we can't use
it.<BR><BR>Take note, in Breslau a housing development did not have an EIS
study and that proposal depleted several residential wells. The result was
a proposal to introduce a looping water pipe at home owners expense to the
tune of approx. $15,000 per home. The public protested and the project was
declined. Technically according to MOE laws, the developer should have
been held fully accountable for the remediation of all the adversely
affected wells in the area. These are the kids of issues that EIS is
designed to PREVENT.<BR><FONT size=2><BR></FONT>
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<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 100%; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT size=2><SPAN
lang=en-US>Even the new constraints of the Oak Ridges Moraine Act do not
apply to older proposals so we are still observing development encroaching
upon sensitive areas degrading the very resources the Act was designed to
protect. They can't grandfather the law. <BR></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 100%; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT size=2><SPAN
lang=en-US>The new decision coming out of Mount Nemo could have helped in
this case. If we were to implement a private member application, that
would have </SPAN></FONT>allowed the proper level of environmental
protection to be decided ahead of, or at the same time as, the Gas Bar
approval justified by the need to take a precautionary approach.</P>
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<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 100%; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">That's one option we need
to remember in the days ahead. </P><BR>Lulu<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 9/24/10,
Ginny Quinn <I><ginny@kw.igs.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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Ginny Quinn <ginny@kw.igs.net><BR>Subject: Re: [All] Challenges we
still face on Source Protection<BR>To: "Louisette Lanteigne"
<butterflybluelu@rogers.com>, all@gren.ca<BR>Cc:
alicia.pokluda@sympatico.ca<BR>Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 4:55
PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Lulu With the proximity of the wellhead and the high
water table and proximity of Strasburg Creek are you
SURE that there have been NO EIS studies ??Please tell me where I
can confirm this fact. and I'll see if I can get my teeth
into that one correctly. Or if they're going to do it soon
??? and is responsible to see that it is done???Thanks
Ginny</DIV>
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<DIV>Alicia I'm copying you on this because we have to
keep you updated Ginny</DIV>
<DIV>I want to write to the Editor but MUST have my facts
straight. GQ</DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228)"><B>From:</B> <A
title=butterflybluelu@rogers.com
href="/mc/compose?to=butterflybluelu@rogers.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank ymailto="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com">Louisette
Lanteigne</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=all@gren.ca
href="/mc/compose?to=all@gren.ca" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:all@gren.ca">all@gren.ca</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 21, 2010
10:42 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [All] Challenges we
still face on Source Protection</DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Hi folks<BR><BR>Last night the city of Kitchener
approved building a gas bar with car wash to be built over top a
sensitive well head protection area within 500 meters of
Strasburg Creek. The runoff from the car wash is intended to
discharge into sewers, the related chloride of road salts from
the cars will end up in the Grand because they can't remove it.
The Fuel storage is supposedly going to be placed "above the
water line" using a fiber glass tank, but the land has not been
subject to an EIS study. The zoning was given back in 1987 so
the ecological constraints are set to those
standards.<BR><BR>Well over a hundred signed the petition
against it, all delegates opposed it except for Mr. Brittan who
was representing the group. No regional hydrology staff or GRCA
were present. Council said the GRCA approved this, and council
Vrbanic stated that even with todays laws it would still
technically be a use allowed for this location. Kelly Galloway
stated that conflicts with what she was told by Regional Staff.
According to the current ROPP it would not be allowed but the
ministry has yet to fully approve that ROPP so it doesn't stick
yet.<BR><BR>Citizens tried to put a delay on the project stating
more info is needed, why not let the next council participate in
this decision but no delay was given. They simply approved of it
with the only opposition from Ms. Wiley and Ms.
Galloway.<BR><BR>When Mr.Gazolla started speaking of his
confidence of developers to be able to responsibly construct
this project in this area I lost it. I stood up, showed him my
the iron suppliments my doctor ordered me to take to make up for
the chronic anemia I have from all the bloody episodes of e coli
that I endured in my subdivision. The result of poor planning
has changed the biological composition of my blood. I stormed
out of there so angry. They just don't get it. They have not
actualized the risk.<BR><BR>The technical manual as produced by
the MOE clearly identifies projects of this nature as a "threat
to drinking water quality". I told them in my speech how all the
legislation I've reviewed from the Clean Water Act, the Ontario
Source Protection Act, the PPS, ROPP, Kitchener OPP, there is no
way this project can reasonably be viewed as compliant.
Seriously, if any of those pipes sink or shift for either the
car wash or the gas station it's contamination. They just don't
get it<BR><BR>The City planners and city council are woefully
undereducated on the bona fide risks and they give absolutely no
regard to any legislation outside of the outdated planning
policies of this project. They don't know or understand what
other options exist.<BR><BR>At this time we are sitting along a
fault line where on one side there has been extraordinary
scientific advancements that can identify ecological and
hydrological risks and develop policy strategies to avert them.
On the other side there are past plans and associated fiscal
investments pushing the ecological limits to advance forward.
It's a time of opposing and conflicting values, opposing and
conflicting long term economic and environmental visions. To add
to the sense of horror, the educated public is witnessing these
economic projects come to fruition going beyond environmental
constraints. We can see the damages at the local level with
Elmira, Northstar, leaky landfills etc. Then at the national
level we have Tar Sands, the Gulf Oil spill. The trust in
government working for the good will of the people has been
shattered at every level we have a gross disconnect between
municipal objectives and the public. <BR><BR>It's easy to blame
council, but on the flip side, the latest ROPP is amazing. Our
policies are trying catch up to science and make everyone happy
while trying to avert fiscal disaster associated with previous
investments. <BR><BR>Maybe GREN needs to create a panel to
consult with ministry officials and planners to see if we can
create ways to intervene with past planning that poses a risk if
only to bump up mitigation strategies. If we created a report
like that we can distribute this widely, not only our region but
others. <BR><BR>Politicans across Ontario need access to options
like this otherwise these crazy things are going to continue
over and over again. Reactionary approaches are weakest but in
providing strategies,knowledge that can be used, to address
these types of issues, now that's the path to creating real
solutions. <BR><BR>Lulu :0)<BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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