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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well Randy, I certainly HOPE it never gets off the
ground.The estimated price will be at least 30-40% higher than currently
anticipated. Kitchener was to have been able to do downtown
roads pipes etc renovations for $7 million...it went
above$ 10 million. When you start digging up ,old roads and pipes ,you're
promised to run into many many many ugly surprises. I believe
the consultants give the price under "Ideal " circumstances but it
never works out that way. Govt. has already slashed the 'promised" dollars
back does anyone think we'll get extra $ help when (not
IF) the project runs way over budget. Our feds are broke
our cities are broke and the tax payers are carrying very heavy burdens
currently. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Shortreed ,a transportation expert, has been
quoted in the Record and on TV as saying firmly....we do not have the
population to support this system It needs one million people to
even make it viable...and I say firmly we do not have the Water to feed one
million people It is anticipated the Region will have taken in an
additional 250,000 immigrants by 2030-2035. And we have been told by water
experts that with Global Warming we can't count on piping to Lake
Erie ; the only Lake available to us. If I ever write a letter
to the Record I will not mention my association with GREN as GREN has gone
public as supporting it and I have not supported it frm the
start. Ginny</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=randybmclean@rogers.com
href="mailto:randybmclean@rogers.com">randybmclean@rogers.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mill@continuum.org
href="mailto:mill@continuum.org">'Robert Milligan'</A> ; <A
title=butterflybluelu@rogers.com
href="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com">'Louisette Lanteigne'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=all@gren.ca
href="mailto:all@gren.ca">all@gren.ca</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 03, 2010 8:43
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [All] Fw: Rapid Transit
Funding Update</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
will ask the questions.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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have major capital, multi-government projects ever had significant overruns in
cost?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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has any government ever backed out of their promise to
finance?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Living in North Dumfries why do I have to pay for something I see no use for
especially when I only go to Kitchener and Waterloo about 2 times/ month and
Cambridge about 1 time per week? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Why are these end terminals from shopping mall to shopping mall and not from
education centre to education centre?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Does anyone else believe this will never get off the
ground?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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all-bounces@gren.ca [mailto:all-bounces@gren.ca] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Robert
Milligan<BR><B>Sent:</B> September-03-10 2:16 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Louisette
Lanteigne<BR><B>Cc:</B> all@gren.ca<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [All] Fw: Rapid
Transit Funding Update<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks Lulu. Really great news, finally, especially because
the need to be frugal can lead to significant technological innovation as in
India and China. See <SPAN class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt"><A
href="http://forums.treehugger.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=8551">http://forums.treehugger.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=8551</A>
& <A
href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6762f77a-77de-11df-82c3-00144feabdc0.html">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6762f77a-77de-11df-82c3-00144feabdc0.html</A></SPAN></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>If so, things will get even more interesting as the
Region hopefully struggles to avoid designing an LRT system that -- on
detailed analysis -- can unfortunately be considered a potentially very costly
"white elephant". I prefer potentially moderately costing successful "green
elephants" that can fly fast (between terminals at Northfield
& Ainslie) carrying many and many types of people on their back while
very conservatively (my tip of the hat to Stephen Harper) using
only renewable energy (via solar cells -- for UltraBattery charging
--covering the terminal areas). <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Will our Regional Government have the necessary insight,
vision and wisdom to dream such a "green elephant" into reality? Or will a
dream of a potential "green elephant" be forced to become a "white elephant"
out of conventional bureaucratic fear of thinking outside-the-box? It is
indeed unfortunate that our Regional Government in not supported in such
potential creative innovation by a community culture of World-class pioneering
innovation!<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I particularly appreciated the implied openness to some new
possibilities in Chair Ken Seiling's statement, "Now that we know the amount
of the federal and provincial funding, <B>we can proceed to determine the best
balance between available funding and the long-term, best interests of our
community.” </B><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>A key question is, "To help prevent our community's
perceived innovative potential from being stomped on by a costly "white
elephant", what IDEAS within the current LRT system design need to be enhanced
-- with minimum disruption of the existing Environmental Assessment -- by
better IDEAS (that have become apparent in recent months) for
successful goal realization so as to be of an affordable cost and serve in a
<B>timely and equitable</B> manner "the long-term, best interests of our
community.” <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Robert (definitely not in support of same old, same old --
unless appropriately enhanced)<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>P.S.: 1. Check out first how advanced some key Japanese LRT
manufacturers (especially Kinki Sharyo) are in battery powered LRT vehicles,
then second the now proven UltraBattery that would likely enable my
suggested terminal to terminal on-board (braking enhanced) electrical energy
storage requirements to be met. (The increased demand for air conditioning
could be supplemented by solar cells on the LRT roof and heating for the
coldest days<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>supplemented by heaters that burn air pollution free
hydrogen [that we produce ourselves from solar cells over our major land-fill
sites].<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>i) <SPAN class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><A
href="http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201008250414.html">http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201008250414.html</A>
(I've been invited to take a ride on it when they come to the US in late fall,
viz. "</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">We will again
present this vehicle at Innotrans and will have a scale model of the vehicle
in our exhibit. At that time, the whole rail industry will become aware
of the vehicle. We plan to demonstrate this vehicle in Charlotte NC in
the 4<SUP>th</SUP> quarter of this year. If you would like a ride,
let me know.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">"</SPAN></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>ii) <A
href="http://www.greencarsaregreat.com/blog/east-penn-manufacturing-granted-32-5-million-to-push-for-breakthrough-ultrabattery-in-the-united-states.php6">http://www.greencarsaregreat.com/blog/east-penn-manufacturing-granted-32-5-million-to-push-for-breakthrough-ultrabattery-in-the-united-states.php6</A> (As
East Penn will not be set to manufacture these until 2012, I have suggested
that Kinki Sharyo enhance their demonstration tour vehicle to be
able to switch between their Lithium-ion battery and Furakawa's -- same as
sub-licensee East Penn Mfg.'s --proven UltraBattery which they manufacture
now! Maybe their possible discussions with East Penn will lead to this initial
action.) viz."<SPAN class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Additionally, as I
explained our vehicle is a platform that can be upgraded with new technology
as it is advanced. ... if East Penn would like to work on a development
with us I will float the idea.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'">"</SPAN></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>2. <B>I only wish that there was some way to better reach
the community (beyond a measly 200 word, editor distorted, letter to the
Record) with viable green IDEAS for the LRT system design -- maybe I can
create an IDEA to achieve this.</B><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Note: bcc's have been also sent to other parties who might
be interested.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On 2-Sep-10, at 8:55 PM, Louisette Lanteigne
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 9/2/10, RTInfo <I><<A
href="mailto:rtinfo@region.waterloo.on.ca">rtinfo@region.waterloo.on.ca</A>></I></B>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><BR>From: RTInfo <<A
href="mailto:rtinfo@region.waterloo.on.ca">rtinfo@region.waterloo.on.ca</A>><BR>Subject:
Rapid Transit Funding Update<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com">butterflybluelu@rogers.com</A><BR>Date:
Thursday, September 2, 2010, 4:25 PM<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">It is my pleasure to
share with you some important news about the Region of Waterloo’s rapid
transit project.<BR><BR>Below you will find the news release from
today's announcement.<BR><BR>Nancy Button<BR>Director, Rapid
Transit<BR><BR><BR>The Government of Canada announces funding for rapid
transit in Waterloo Region<BR><BR>(September 2, 2010) The Government of
Canada will provide one-third of eligible costs, up to $265 million to
support the construction of the Region's rapid transit project. Prime
Minister Stephen Harper came to Waterloo Region today to make the
announcement. <BR><BR>“We are pleased that the Federal government
recognizes the importance of the Region’s rapid transit project, and has
made this funding commitment to the initial phase of the project,” said
Regional Chair Ken Seiling. <BR><BR>In light of the Federal government’s
funding commitment today and the Province of Ontario’s commitment of
$300 million, the Region can now move forward with the planning of the
project’s scope, design details, cost and Regional funding
options. The goal will be to identify the Phase 1 project that
provides best value to the community and is affordable to Regional
taxpayers given the available federal and provincial funding.
Regional staff will evaluate various options for consideration and final
decision by Regional Council.<BR><BR>“Now that we know the amount of the
federal and provincial funding, we can proceed to determine the best
balance between available funding and the long-term, best interests of
our community,” said Regional Chair Ken Seiling. <BR>
<BR>In June 2009, based on
the extensive evaluation and analysis conducted during the Rapid Transit
Environmental Assessment, Regional Council:<BR>•
Approved a light rail transit (LRT) system from Waterloo to Cambridge as
the Region’s long-term preferred rapid transit system;
<BR>• Recognized that a staged implementation would be
required to reflect the financial resources required and to ensure the
best match of transit technology to ridership and intensification
potential; and<BR>• Approved the initial phase of the
project which includes LRT from Conestoga Mall to Fairview Park Mall and
adapted bus rapid transit from Fairview Park Mall to the Ainslie Street
Terminal in Cambridge.<BR> <BR>For more information on
the rapid transit project, please visit the website at <A
href="http://www.region.waterloo.on.ca/rapidtransit">www.region.waterloo.on.ca/rapidtransit</A>.<BR><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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