<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Carole,<div><br></div><div>I have previously been involved -- though my company Enviro-Health Systems -- in the effects of low concentrations of toxic chemicals on human health which included the area of environmental hypersensitivity, one of Dr. Rapp's specialities. I have heard her speak many times and she is excellent. Her work and that of other physicians who practice</div><div>environmental medicine (I knew very well local paediatric physician Don Basteado [now deceased] who included environmental & alternative medicine in his practice.) Despite the urgings of Hippocrates to take environmental factors into consideration in their diagnoses, this has mostly not happened with most physicains -- too bad environmental factors are not part of the physician's Hippocratic oath. And with most toxicologists being hired guns for chemical company interests and chemists and chemical engineers not required to learn about toxicology -- even the biased and watered-down form such as taught by UofG's Canadian Centre for Toxicology might be better than nothing ("Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do" -- how convenient!).</div><div><br></div><div>Doris Rapp's dietary modification (probably fluoride-free water and toothpaste were part of the modification) form of treatment does suggest that fluoride can be a neuro-toxin &/or</div><div>neuro-allergen. Of course Rapp's clinical success does not constitute scientific proof but is very suggestive of negative neurological effects. But, I would argue that her work is more than sufficient to trigger the Precautionary Principle. Unfortunately our MOH's are more in the public relations business and insufficiently in public/environmental health.</div><div><br></div><div>I am currently advocating that we need to set up programs to help make people in our Region at least smarter, more knowledgeable and wiser so as to both better: 1) adapt to the World's increasing complexity, and 2) participate in the new Knowledge Economy/Society.</div><div>(UofW Pres. David Johnston helped bring this problem of many undereducated people in our Region in connection with his Knowledge Capital of Canada idea.) Chemicals that interfere with neurological functioning -- even if a theoretical grey scale of severity of negative effects is clustered more towards the small % of the population end -- can contribute synergistically (with other environmental, genetic, epigenetic, ... factors) so as to have negative health effects much beyond the anticipated effects of that single factor.</div><div>Even some chemicals, etc. factors which test o.k. (although most health/environmental effects testing methods and frequency are very inadequate) may negatively affect some individuals because of that person's particular bio-chemical, etc. uniqueness. Especially as every human life -- mostly because of their uniqueness/diversity/variety/difference/... -- plays a role in sustaining and advancing our Complex World, therefore decreasing their ability to so function should never be tolerated.</div><div><br></div><div>I would like to find out more about the harmful neurological effects of fluoride compounds -- including combined with other chemicals they may often occur with in the human body such as bromides (from fire retardants in furnature, etc.) -- based on both clinical practice and the</div><div>very sparse experimental work usually to "prove" no harm to protect industry from lawsuits.</div><div>(This research paper on atrazine involving 2 UofG+ toxicologists could be such research,</div><div><a href="http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/86/2/273">http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/86/2/273</a> -- we have to assume that they did no "cooking". yet I remember in university chemistry that we found out the desired results beforehand, then did the experiment in a way to produce those results & get a good mark!)</div><div><br></div><div>I really appreciate the work the you Carole and Robert Fleming are doing on the fluoride issue.</div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div>Robert Milligan</div><div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On 11-Mar-10, at 12:54 PM, Carole Clinch wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Arial"><div>GRENERS<div style="margin-bottom: 0.21cm; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0.21cm; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p style="margin-bottom: 0.21cm; ">Dr. Doris Rapp, MD, FAAA, FAEM, FAAP,Pediatric allergist and environmental medical specialist discusses one of her patients, an 8 year old girl, who becomes depressed from ingesting fluoride.</p><p style="margin-bottom: 0.21cm; ">Some children are sick because of chemicals. After removing fluoride from her diet, this child's IQ went from 57 to 125 over a period of about 1 ½ year.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></p> </div><div><a href="http://depressioninfos.com/blog/616/can-fluoride-cause-severe-depression/" target="_blank">http://depressioninfos.com/blog/616/can-fluoride-cause-severe-depression/</a></div><div> </div><div>or video #9 on Dr. Rapp's Website</div><div> </div><div><a href="http://www.drrapp.com/" target="_blank">http://www.drrapp.com/</a></div><div> </div><div>and on YouTube</div><div> </div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_w3zi8UPxE&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_w3zi8UPxE&feature=player_embedded</a>#</div></font><br clear="all"><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Carole Clinch BA BPHE<br>307 Normandy Ave<br>Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2K 1X6<br>519-884-8184<br><br>Spokesperson & Research Coordinator<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>People for Safe Drinking Water<br>Website:<a href="http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2009/10/26/people_for_safe_drinking_water.htm">http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2009/10/26/people_for_safe_drinking_water.htm</a><br><br>Auditor General of Canada Petition #221E: Misrepresentation and Omissions of Material Fact by Government Agencies<br><a href="http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/Clinch_2009_AuditorGeneralCanada_Petition_False_Misleading.pdf">http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/Clinch_2009_AuditorGeneralCanada_Petition_False_Misleading.pdf</a><br><br>Clinch CA. Fluoride Interactions with Iodine and Iodide: Implications for Breast Health. Fluoride April-June 2009:42(2):75-87.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><a href="http://www.fluorideresearch.org/422/files/FJ2009_v42_n2_p00i-iii.pdf">http://www.fluorideresearch.org/422/files/FJ2009_v42_n2_p00i-iii.pdf</a><br><br>Long H, Jin Y, Lin M, Sun Y, Zhang L, Clinch C. Fluoride Toxicity in the Male Reproductive System. Fluoride Oct-Dec 2009;42(4):275-291.<br><a href="http://www.fluorideresearch.org/424/files/FJ2009_v42_n4_p260-276.pdf">http://www.fluorideresearch.org/424/files/FJ2009_v42_n4_p260-276.pdf</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>All mailing list<br><a href="mailto:All@gren.ca">All@gren.ca</a><br><a href="http://gren.ca/mailman/listinfo/all_gren.ca">http://gren.ca/mailman/listinfo/all_gren.ca</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>