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<h1><a href="/ottawacitizen/blogs/bulldog/archive/2009/11/03/light-rail-city-planning-in-kitchener.aspx">Light-Rail City Planning in Kitchener</a></h1>
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<span class="name">By <a href="/ottawacitizen/members/Kenneth_5F00_Gray/default.aspx">Kenneth_Gray</a></span>
<span class="timestamp">Tue, Nov 3 2009</span>
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<p>Here is what happens to a city when it builds light rail. In this case, it is Kitchener:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><i>In
an effort to create a vibrant urban neighbourhood city officials have
redrawn the land use map for an important stretch of King Street West.</i></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><i>The
area from the railway tracks to Union Street is among seven chosen for
a new attempt at city building. In the parlance of City Hall planners
this stretch of King Street West is a Mixed Use Corridor.</i></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><i>"It's
really like an evolution of these urban areas that we see as
important," Alain Pinard, the city's interim director of planning, says.</i></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><i>King
Street West is the first of those seven areas to have the properties in
the corridor rezoned to support development that is pedestrian oriented
and transit friendly.</i></p>
<p>To read the full story, <a target="_blank" href="http://news.therecord.com/News/Local/article/617314">click here</a>.</p>
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<p>I think it's imperative that we have station area plans for the inner city areas as well. Many of them have development potential, like Hurdman, Bayview and Cyrville. In addition, many of them have redevelopment opportunities. These are the stations thatwill give us the most if we redevelop and plan around them, not the greenfields of the future.</p>
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<p>Waterloo Region has also been undertaking a station area planning initiative... for Ottawa I think we can do some of the same, especially once we extend our line past the initial line. </p>
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