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<DIV>Here's the note from Mr. Bogart below. The conclusion is that all of the salamanders were in fact Eastern newts. (All newts are salamanders but not all salamanders are newts) </DIV>
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<DIV>I've got a you tube showing the little Red Eft aka Eastern newt I came across: <A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6USDpm3aC4">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6USDpm3aC4</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Here's a video taken just this morning regarding the Wild Turkey off Wideman Road</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuHWgOxNX8E">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuHWgOxNX8E</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Here's the video of the "Hot Spot" with the higest fatalities for amphibians along Wideman Road. If we could built an amphibian tunnel in this area, that would certainly go a long way to protecting all these species. </DIV>
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<DIV><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs1GYkYPmWo">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs1GYkYPmWo</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Keep your eyes on the roadways for turtles, salamanders and frogs folks. Now's the time to look!</DIV>
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<DIV>Lulu :0)<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 9/23/09, Jim Bogart <I><jbogart@uoguelph.ca></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=plainMail>Dear Louisette,<BR><BR>Thanks for the map and for showing me the specimens. After a more careful look at the specimens, the salamanders were all Eastern Newts (Notopthalmus viridescens). A couple, that I thought might be Red-back Salamanders (Plethodon cinereus), were not much more than skeletons but Newts have distinctive crests on their skull behind their orbits (eye sockets) that were visible on the skeletons. That actually makes more sense because Newts do migrate in the fall to a spring breeding area but Red-backs pretty much stay in the forest (they are terrestrial breeders) - in and under rotten logs.<BR><BR>The turtle was a Painted Turtle (Chrysemys picta).<BR><BR>The total count - 13 Eastern Newts and one Painted Turtle.<BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR><BR>Jim Bogart<BR><BR>Louisette Lanteigne wrote:<BR>> Hi Mr. Cornelisse<BR>> I've got a map in the attachments showing the area where I found all the salamanders. The Red
line shows the area where all specimins were found and the circled area is the hot spot zone where I'd estimate 70% originated. This is the same area with the highest frog fatalities and I picked up a crushed Slider turtle there too. You will see the vernal pond located to the south on the map. There were lots of frog calls heard from there and from another point across the street to the north. The majority of dead salamanders were on the south side of the street adjacent to road along that private property.<BR>> I spoke with Mr.Campbell this morning about the find and he directed me to bring the 13 dead ones to Mr. Bogart at the U of G. We met this afternnoon and that's where I dropped them off. (I found 7 more flattened on the road this morning)<BR>> I'm hoping with this information, we can recommend the use of amphibian tunnels or other mitigative strategies to allow for safe passage of these creatures. I would not want to see
sewers or curbs placed along that stretch. Folks tend to barrel through the roads pretty fast around here.<BR>> Mr. Bogart will fill me in on the results of the analysis. We know there are confirmed red efts and redbacks. Not sure what the others are but when I do know I'll relay the info.<BR>> If I find anything else in the area I'll be sure to get intouch.<BR>> Thanks Mr. Cornelisse<BR>> Louisette Lanteigne<BR>> 700 Star Flower Ave.<BR>> Waterloo Ontario<BR>> N2V 2L2<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- On *Wed, 9/23/09, Cornelisse, Ken (MNR) /<<A href="http://ca.mc883.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ken.cornelisse@ontario.ca" ymailto="mailto:ken.cornelisse@ontario.ca">ken.cornelisse@ontario.ca</A>>/* wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: Cornelisse, Ken (MNR) <<A href="http://ca.mc883.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ken.cornelisse@ontario.ca"
ymailto="mailto:ken.cornelisse@ontario.ca">ken.cornelisse@ontario.ca</A>><BR>> Subject: RE: Amphibians in Waterloo<BR>> To: "Louisette Lanteigne" <<A href="http://ca.mc883.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=butterflybluelu@rogers.com" ymailto="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com">butterflybluelu@rogers.com</A>><BR>> Cc: "Jim Bogart" <<A href="http://ca.mc883.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jbogart@uoguelph.ca" ymailto="mailto:jbogart@uoguelph.ca">jbogart@uoguelph.ca</A>><BR>> Received: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 9:58 AM<BR>> <BR>> Hello Ms. Lanteigne,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Once you have had discussions with the staff at Laurel Cr, please<BR>> let me know if the samples you collected include any species at risk.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> Thank you.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ken<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ken Cornelisse<BR>> <BR>> A/ Planning & Information Management Supervisor<BR>> <BR>> MNR – Guelph District<BR>> <BR>> 1 Stone Road West<BR>> <BR>> Guelph, ON<BR>> <BR>> N1G 4Y2<BR>> <BR>> phone: (519) 826-6849<BR>> <BR>> cell: (519) 546-4427<BR>> <BR>> fax: (519) 826-4929<BR>> <BR>> Email: <A href="http://ca.mc883.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ken.cornelisse@ontario.ca" ymailto="mailto:ken.cornelisse@ontario.ca">ken.cornelisse@ontario.ca</A><BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> *From:* Louisette Lanteigne [mailto:<A href="http://ca.mc883.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=butterflybluelu@rogers.com" ymailto="mailto:butterflybluelu@rogers.com">butterflybluelu@rogers.com</A>]<BR>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:36 AM<BR>> *To:* <A href="http://ca.mc883.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jbogart@uoguelph.ca" ymailto="mailto:jbogart@uoguelph.ca">jbogart@uoguelph.ca</A>; Cornelisse, Ken (MNR)<BR>> *Subject:* Amphibians in Waterloo<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Hi Mr.Bogart, Mr. Cornelisse<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Last night, round midnight I photographed many amphibian species<BR>>
on Wideman Road and I have 6 roadkill salamanders with me. Some of<BR>> them are Red Eft but I'm not sure of the others. I have some<BR>> photos of what I saw posted here for your reference. Those feature<BR>> the live critters I saw.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <A href="http://www.waterloomoraineact.com/widemanroad" target=_blank>http://www.waterloomoraineact.com/widemanroad</A><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> In terms of roadkill, there were lots of dead bullfrogs and<BR>> leopard frogs found. Seeing that they have the largest body they<BR>> basically have higher chance of remaining after a car squish<BR>> opposed to the little guys who get totally mashed.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> I have 6 dead and very flat salamanders that I picked up last<BR>> night. Some are Red Eft (you can tell by the coloring and<BR>> dots) and others might include Red back but it's hard to tell. I<BR>> have others that I just can't honestly identify at all. Tiny<BR>> things. I ziplock bagged them and recorded where I found each.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> The highest concentration of the dead critters was<BR>> located inbetween the enterance to the Owen/McNally property all<BR>> the way up to 720 Wideman Road with the last address being right<BR>> in the hotzone for fatalities. There is a guy who collects<BR>> old cars in that area. I didn't find anything
between his shed to<BR>> the intersection of Wideman Road and Wilmot Line in terms of road<BR>> kill amphibians. <BR>> <BR>> This area of most interest appears to be near the residences to<BR>> the east between the Owen property and 720 Wideman Road . It is a<BR>> natural crossing area for all sorts of amphibian types. I found a<BR>> dead turtle here too. I've got that in the fridge. Poor thing was<BR>> crushed beyond recognition.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I've got to bring my husband to work, then I'll stop by the Laurel<BR>> Creek Conservation Authority to see if they can help me identify<BR>> these things and I'll get back to you on
this.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Also, I heard a group of Coyotes howling and yipping loudly as the<BR>> local train went by along the corner of Wideman Road and Wilmot<BR>> Line area. We've got plenty of them out this way. The<BR>> coyote/salamander link should really be researched. I don't think<BR>> you can have one without the other.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Thanks kindly for your time.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Louisette Lanteigne<BR>> <BR>> 700 Star Flower Ave.<BR>> <BR>> Waterloo Ontario<BR>> <BR>> N2V 2L2<BR>> <BR>> 519-885-7619<BR>> <BR>>
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