[All] Red Side Dace can protect

Wed Aug 21 09:47:45 EDT 2024

Good morning
I just checked with Dr. Chris Bunt.  I wanted to be sure my memory was 
accurate.  When he did studies in Hidden Valley, he found no Red Dace.
Regards,
Neil (E. Taylor)

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Sent: Tuesday, August 20th 2024, 18:10
Subject: Re: [All] Red Side Dace can protect
Quick correction 

The Redside was with Hidden Valley and Hwy 413 and a couple of 
other projects I worked with previously but NOT part of the West Side 
Lands hearing. We won concessions for a fish community way but not in 
regards to that particular fish. 

Louisette 

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On Tuesday, August 20, 2024, 6:05 PM, Lanteigne <water.lulu at yahoo.ca> 
wrote:

Will correct. Thank you. It was with 413 and Hidden Valley and other 
locations I did. Thanks for the correction.

Louisette 

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On Tuesday, August 20, 2024, 4:23 PM, Dean Fitzgerald 
<deanfishy at hotmail.com> wrote:

Good Afternoon Lulu,

Nice to hear from you.

For the west side lands, Clair Creek, and Laurel Creek, I did NOT say 
the Redside Dace was there. I published all the records of fish I could 
find for Laurel Creek, initially in my MSc. that was completed during 
summer 1996. After the completion of the MSc., I then published the fish 
survey results in a number of peer reviewed articles. None of these 
articles identified Redside Dace. Please note that other dace were in 
those collection but ZERO Redside Dace. I also deposited numerous fish 
specimens at the WLU museum and Royal Ontario Museum. One such 
publication is attached to this note. I purposely published this 
information, as a record of what was there at the different sample 
times.

For the 20 m environmental buffer for the creeks, it was based on the 
presence of sensitive fishes, as required under the Fisheries Act and 
Ministry of Natural Resources plus the guidance within the Policy and 
Planning Statement (PPS). Back then, I could have also cited the Lakes 
and Rivers Improvement Act but it was redundant to the Fisheries Act.

It is also important to remember the updated Ontario Endangered Species 
Act did not become active until 2008 and I think that our west side 
lands activity happened just before the ESA was updated. 

Plus the recovery strategy for the Redside Dace came out well after the 
OMB decision for the west side lands.

In summary, I did not identify Redside Dace in the Laurel Creek 
watershed and I definitely did not say such in the affidavit back in the 
day. 

Please do not tell folks that I found Redside Dace in Laurel Creek or 
Clair Creek. This is not correct.

Thank you for all of your hard work to protect the environment and 
Mother Earth.

Sincerely,
Dean Fitzgerald

From: Lanteigne <water.lulu at yahoo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2024 3:55 PM
To: Dean Fitzgerald <deanfishy at hotmail.com>; Neil E. Taylor 
<neiletaylor at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Fw: Red Side Dace can protect

Good news for Red Side Dave. I am still at the City of Waterloo Parking 
Lot writing all this. I told staff to prevent floods and good water 
quality heading to our wells,  protect the Jefferson Salamander, Wavy 
Rayed Mussel and Red Side Dace. 

My letter to Gren below. 

Lulu 

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On Tuesday, August 20, 2024, 3:53 PM, Lanteigne <water.lulu at yahoo.ca> 
wrote:
Hi folks 

With the West Side Lands OMB hearing PL071044, fhe Endangered Red Side 
Dace secured me 20m buffer zones both sides of Clair Creek to protect 
its habitat and the loosing recharge that acts like a whirlpool sucking 
water down to the deep aquifer system feeding the Greenbrook Well. 

This fish now has a recovery strategy out. This will impact HWY 413. 
Years ago I my findings on 413 were submitted with that public process 
which successfully stopped the 413. With this new info we may see the 
same results. 

 https://environmentaldefence.ca/2024/08/20/environmental-group-celebrates-as-federal-government-finalizes-delayed-plan-to-protect-redside-dace-after-legal-pressure/ 
<https://environmentaldefence.ca/2024/08/20/environmental-group-celebrates-as-federal-government-finalizes-delayed-plan-to-protect-redside-dace-after-legal-pressure/>

The Red Side Dace is a fish found where groundwater enters rivers and 
tributaries. It’s often a sign of good water quality along with other 
species such as Wavy Rayed Mussels and Jefferson Salamanders. 

I went to the city to ask them to do tests for those three animals and 
to apply critical habitat protection on them because they serve to 
protect water quality, water flow and flow rates and help to offset 
flood risks by protecting natural recharge infiltration areas. I used 
that at the West Side Lands. 
These animals are in the Laurel Creek Watershed, confirmed in Clair 
Creek with the Laurel Creek Watershed Study and physical samples are at 
Wilfrid Laurier. Dr, Dean Fitzgerald worked on that. He worked with 
EcoMetrix and was An Adjunct Prof at UW and Cornell University. His 
affidavit is with my documents at the Wilfrid Laurier Archives. 

https://libarchives.wlu.ca/index.php/louisette-lanteigne-fonds 
<https://libarchives.wlu.ca/index.php/louisette-lanteigne-fonds>

I can also confirm the Wavy Rayed Mussels and Red Side Dace are adjacent 
to Hidden Valley upstream of the water intake at the Mannheim wells. We 
need the critical habitat studies done to protect them there.  

To this day I have not seen evidence of the Ministry Orders Salt 
Mitigation Stratrgy that I secured during the River Road Extension 
process by Hidden Valley. 

Louisette Lanteigne 
700 Starflower Ave
Waterloo ON
N2V 2L2 

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