[All] In Defence of Robert....continuation opf emails...GQ

Ginny Quinn ginnypq at gmail.com
Sat Mar 29 19:14:49 EDT 2014 

  Hi  Susan and Jason…You  don’t know me ,Jason,  and I don’t know  you….but
I do not believe any one of us members of GREN   would   have the right
nor the authority  to give you the password  except   our Chairman,   JOHN
JACKSON  and/or  THEO….but I doubt  that we/they  would want you or anybody
else to have  complete access to    GRENS  PASSWORD AND   FILES   so that
you could  make any changes you deem  that  Need doing.   I’m assuming
you’re a younger fellow    and you can very well assume that I’m  an  older
lady.   I’ve been fighting  for this community and the environment   and the
water  and community parks   and against letting a contaminated  soil
company  open up in Kitchener  on  Highland Road East    and “SAVING     ST.
MARY’S  HOSPITAL’  “     I was active in  and keeping the Casinos   out of
our community.   Not once     but    TWICE        ETC.   ETC...

    

 Each group I’ve worked with made a difference     and MOST  of those
battles were won  completely    since  1969 .  So, like Greg,  and John and
Susan    and Kevin  and  Lulu and Deb  and  Gord and Daphne and so  many of
our members,  I’ve got  a lot of experience  to draw from  plus   more than
a few white strands  of hair.   I can pick up the phone  and talk to most
councils  and they can put a picture on me  ‘cause “I’ve been THERE  and
DONE that….and they know  I’ll be back.!!!!

I would seek an answer to this question.    WOULD YOU GIVE THE  KEYS   TO
YOUR   HOUSE/HOME  TO A  GROUP OF ‘STRANGERS’?    and invite them in  to
‘renovate’  and or redecorate  (or even  ROB   you of your belongings …to
put to their OWN  good ( or bad  or inexperienced use).   Well , I   KNOW
that GREN   ‘LEADERS ‘   will NOT   give you or any other personality  that
opportunity.!!

 

We  might have the opportunity to meet some day  but until then, please
don’t expect  complete access to  OUR GREN  website …we’re too experienced
..and many of us have been “had” before   and are not willing to be
knowingly “had “   again.    I appreciate your enthusiasm.   And please keep
working for the Environment and for the next  SEVEN GENERATIONS  as WE have
been trying to do.    We NEED you next generations  to be  very  involved
and to  take up  when we leave you  for another world....’cause  that’s when
many of us will stop  fighting for our community.   Ginny Quinn.

 

From: All [mailto:all-bounces at gren.ca] On Behalf Of Jason ComelyTo:
susankoswan 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 3:39 PM

Cc: All
Subject: Re: [All] In Defence of Robert

 


Hi Susan,

There are three reasons why I think Lulu's idea has merit, and that it's
worth pursuiting:

1) I would need the FTP credentials, username and password to access the
GREN website files and make any changes. Do you know them? If not, who does?
Would they entrust that information to me?

2) The concept of wepower.ca is a united voice, not just the voice of GREN

3) Although $20 isn't insignificant, the  only "real" expenditure is my
time, and the few minutes it might take others to throw together some copy

Best,

Jason

 

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:28:00 -0400, "Susan Koswan" wrote:

> I appreciate what you’re both doing here, but we already have the GREN
website, which is underutilized and are already paying for the domain name
etc. etc. Can we save the expense and work with it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Susan K 
> 
> 
> 
> From: All [mailto:all-bounces at gren.ca] On Behalf Of Jason Comely
> Sent: March-28-14 3:22 PM
> To: butterflybluelu
> Cc: All
> Subject: Re: [All] In Defence of Robert
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks Lulu. I just purchased the domain (see below).
> 
> I'll work on the design. I need the following information for the body of
the web page:
> 
> 1) The key demand
> 
> 2) Further explanation of the key demand (3-4 paragraphs)
> 
> 3) A list of all the groups endorsing the demand
> 
> I should be able to manage the rest.
> 
> 
> 
> Like I said, the web page will be online by Saturday night.
> 
> Thanks again Lulu, and look forward to contributions from other GREN
members.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
> 
> Below is the summary of your order: 
> ================================================== 
> Invoice number: 327042751
> ================================================== 
> New registration: 
> - wepower.ca 
> 
> ================================================== 
> SubTotal: $12.88
> GST: $0.64
> PayPal Service Fee: $0.27
> Grand total: $13.79
> ================================================== 
> 
> To manage your domain:
> 1) Please login to your Namespro.ca account
> 2) Click on 'my domains' on the left menu
> 3) Click on the desired domain
> 
> Thank you for choosing Namespro.ca . We are committed to 
> provide trustworthy and dependable domain services to you.
> We appreciate your business. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 12:07:07 -0700 (PDT), Louisette Lanteigne wrote:
> 
> > Just sent you $20 for the URL. Keep the rest for Tim Horton's. :0)
> > 
> > Lulu 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Jason Comely 
> > To: butterflybluelu ; All 
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:54:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [All] In Defence of Robert
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You are so smart and inspiring Lulu. A great idea. I'm embarrassingly
low on cash, but if people reading this are willing to donate $2 via PayPal
to me, I'll buy the domain and design the website and have it done and
online for everyone to link to by this Saturday night, midnight. Promise.
> > I'll need about $14 to buy the .ca domain at namespro.ca. Here's my
PayPal email account: contact at jasoncomely.com
<mailto:contact at jasoncomely.com> 
> > Best,
> > Jason
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:39:12 -0700 (PDT), Louisette Lanteigne wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi folks
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your kind words Jason. Your making me blush here, my
goodness.
> > > 
> > > There are always hardships before the blessings in life. There is
pain before a baby. There is work before pay. There is the tilling of the
soil before the harvests. Any good result relies on actual work and patience
to see result. It requires us to work within the limits of what we actually
have but when we collaborate we get even better results. That is what WREN
and GREN are doing. GREN is about refining concepts using science/logic
based approaches so we can clarify clear goals to work towards in regards to
policy, political lobbying etc. WREN is the networking, the crafting of
alliances to get physical results happening within the framework of existing
business models because business governs our society. (In the context of the
issues were dealing with.) I am optimistic about WREN and GREN and the other
groups involved. The scale of collaboration will reflect the scale of the
benefits received. That is exciting stuff. Those are game changers. 
> > > 
> > > Think how many agencies are linked purely to the networking aspects
of business. We have unions, Chamber of Commerce, trade organizations and
associations, charities like the Rotary Clubs etc. They do this because it
works. The more bees the bigger the buzz. Common sense. Business thrives on
collaboration and they are most effective by keeping their messages short
and sweet. ie: Kill this bill. 
> > > 
> > > Not much explanation is ever given in the business world because they
don't want it or need it. They simply know they agree on it for their own
business objectives. It's common sense. The environmental movement
desperately needs to do the same thing. 
> > > 
> > > For the environmental movement, I'd like to see a website. One single
idea posted at the top of a page which is the most simple way to state a key
demand: Save Hidden Valley, Support Provincial Review of Line 9, pass/reject
this bill etc. All groups endorsing the idea is listed underneath. If a
group wants to provide a hyperlink as to why they support the idea, we can
provide it. That's it. 
> > > 
> > > We could call the site: wepower.ca. The URL is available. 
> > > 
> > > Simplicity of the message. Never underestimate it! 
> > > 
> > > Lulu 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Jason Comely 
> > > To: jkliggett 
> > > Cc: All 
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:55:19 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [All] In Defence of Robert
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Robert, what you said denegrates all of the work that the members of
GREN and others in our communities have done and dedicated their lives to.
> > > I'm a lurker to this list (and a member of GREN for several years). I
just wanted to jump in to the defence of Robert. What impressions I got from
Robert's email was a sense of humility to the limitations of GREN and a show
of support and optimism for WREN.
> > > I was at WRENE2014 last night and I was blown away with the event and
the positivity in the room. WREN will be different than GREN, but not
better. WREN is focused on collaborations, technological innovation and
scaling projects bigger. 
> > > In my mind, GREN exemplifies "the pen being mightier than the sword"
philosophy and leveraging traditional media. And of course Lulu Lanteigne,
who is a Canadian legend (I don't say that lightly) and she absolutely
deserves a Wikipedia page of her own (but I digress).
> > > What I'm trying to say is this is apples and oranges we're comparing.
One does not nor cannot take away from the other. 
> > > Back to lurking again.
> > > Best,
> > > Jason
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 10:25:37 -0400, "Jan Liggett" wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Does anyone have an actual link to an official website of WREN
itself, not the event? I can’t seem to find anything.
> > > > Robert, what you said denegrates all of the work that the members
of GREN and others in our communities have done and dedicated their lives
to. It is wonderful that a younger generation understands something the rest
of us know already. Some of that knowledge is inherent. What they don’t have
is the historical knowledge that we have through actually being there. You
know the kind of ingrained feeling that makes you skin tingle or the hair on
the back of your neck rise. The kind of feeling each of us gets because
we’ve been there and can’t be snowed; the nuances, the semantics.
> > > > The world needs us and them also.
> > > > 
> > > > From: Eleanor Grant 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:25 PM
> > > > To: GREN2 
> > > > Subject: [All] Fwd: #WRENE2014 Update: Network Presenters
> > > > 
> > > > Is anybody from GREN going to this?
> > > > 
> > > > Eleanor
> > > > 
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