[All] WREN etc (Re: In Defence of Robert)

Eleanor Grant eleanor7000 at gmail.com
Fri Mar 28 19:54:45 EDT 2014 

I actually found the WREN meeting pretty weird.  The only other Grenners
there were Kevin and Greg.  I got the impression that most groups were
small businesses or initiatives at UW, or collaborations among these.  The
jargon used was incomprehensible.  I couldn't imagine one of those people
going to city council to save a wetland, for example.  I thought that's
what environmentalists do.

If Jason would like to start a site to monitor current issues in W Reg and
who supports them, I guess that's OK.  But the site should also include
actions that are planned and petitions that are live.  And they have to be
removed when they're out of date.  Having a clearing house of these  could
be a useful service.

My 2¢,

Eleanor
 On Mar 28, 2014 5:51 PM, "Susan Koswan" <susankoswan at execulink.com> wrote:

> I'm also concerned that we keep trying to re-invent and create a central
> hub. We started GREN to do that and now WREN has created itself to do that
> also. Just seems like a lot of duplication and needless repetition and now
> we want ANOTHER central hub website? I don't get it. I love new ideas, new
> energy, new connections, new synergy, but it requires building from what we
> had or don't we risk repeating the same mistakes and continually
> reinventing the wheel. Or am I missing something here?
>
>
>
> *From:* Jason Comely [mailto:contact at jasoncomely.com]
> *Sent:* March-28-14 3:39 PM
> *To:* susankoswan
> *Cc:* All
> *Subject:* Re: [All] In Defence of Robert
>
>
>
>
> Hi Susan,
>
> There are three reasons why I think Lulu's idea has merit, and that it's
> worth pursuiting:
>
> 1) I would need the FTP credentials, username and password to access the
> GREN website files and make any changes. Do you know them? If not, who
> does? Would they entrust that information to me?
>
> 2) The concept of wepower.ca is a united voice, not just the voice of GREN
>
> 3) Although $20 isn't insignificant, the  only "real" expenditure is my
> time, and the few minutes it might take others to throw together some copy
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:28:00 -0400, "Susan Koswan" wrote:
>
> > I appreciate what you're both doing here, but we already have the GREN
> website, which is underutilized and are already paying for the domain name
> etc. etc. Can we save the expense and work with it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Susan K
> >
> >
> >
> > From: All [mailto:all-bounces at gren.ca <all-bounces at gren.ca>] On Behalf
> Of Jason Comely
> > Sent: March-28-14 3:22 PM
> > To: butterflybluelu
> > Cc: All
> > Subject: Re: [All] In Defence of Robert
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Lulu. I just purchased the domain (see below).
> >
> > I'll work on the design. I need the following information for the body
> of the web page:
> >
> > 1) The key demand
> >
> > 2) Further explanation of the key demand (3-4 paragraphs)
> >
> > 3) A list of all the groups endorsing the demand
> >
> > I should be able to manage the rest.
> >
> >
> >
> > Like I said, the web page will be online by Saturday night.
> >
> > Thanks again Lulu, and look forward to contributions from other GREN
> members.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > Below is the summary of your order:
> > ==================================================
> > Invoice number: 327042751
> > ==================================================
> > New registration:
> > - wepower.ca
> >
> > ==================================================
> > SubTotal: $12.88
> > GST: $0.64
> > PayPal Service Fee: $0.27
> > Grand total: $13.79
> > ==================================================
> >
> > To manage your domain:
> > 1) Please login to your Namespro.ca account
> > 2) Click on 'my domains' on the left menu
> > 3) Click on the desired domain
> >
> > Thank you for choosing Namespro.ca . We are committed to
> > provide trustworthy and dependable domain services to you.
> > We appreciate your business.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 12:07:07 -0700 (PDT), Louisette Lanteigne wrote:
> >
> > > Just sent you $20 for the URL. Keep the rest for Tim Horton's. :0)
> > >
> > > Lulu
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Jason Comely
> > > To: butterflybluelu ; All
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:54:32 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [All] In Defence of Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You are so smart and inspiring Lulu. A great idea. I'm embarrassingly
> low on cash, but if people reading this are willing to donate $2 via PayPal
> to me, I'll buy the domain and design the website and have it done and
> online for everyone to link to by this Saturday night, midnight. Promise.
> > > I'll need about $14 to buy the .ca domain at namespro.ca. Here's my
> PayPal email account: contact at jasoncomely.com
> > > Best,
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:39:12 -0700 (PDT), Louisette Lanteigne wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi folks
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your kind words Jason. Your making me blush here, my
> goodness.
> > > >
> > > > There are always hardships before the blessings in life. There is
> pain before a baby. There is work before pay. There is the tilling of the
> soil before the harvests. Any good result relies on actual work and
> patience to see result. It requires us to work within the limits of what we
> actually have but when we collaborate we get even better results. That is
> what WREN and GREN are doing. GREN is about refining concepts using
> science/logic based approaches so we can clarify clear goals to work
> towards in regards to policy, political lobbying etc. WREN is the
> networking, the crafting of alliances to get physical results happening
> within the framework of existing business models because business governs
> our society. (In the context of the issues were dealing with.) I am
> optimistic about WREN and GREN and the other groups involved. The scale of
> collaboration will reflect the scale of the benefits received. That is
> exciting stuff. Those are game changers.
> > > >
> > > > Think how many agencies are linked purely to the networking aspects
> of business. We have unions, Chamber of Commerce, trade organizations and
> associations, charities like the Rotary Clubs etc. They do this because it
> works. The more bees the bigger the buzz. Common sense. Business thrives on
> collaboration and they are most effective by keeping their messages short
> and sweet. ie: Kill this bill.
> > > >
> > > > Not much explanation is ever given in the business world because
> they don't want it or need it. They simply know they agree on it for their
> own business objectives. It's common sense. The environmental movement
> desperately needs to do the same thing.
> > > >
> > > > For the environmental movement, I'd like to see a website. One
> single idea posted at the top of a page which is the most simple way to
> state a key demand: Save Hidden Valley, Support Provincial Review of Line
> 9, pass/reject this bill etc. All groups endorsing the idea is listed
> underneath. If a group wants to provide a hyperlink as to why they support
> the idea, we can provide it. That's it.
> > > >
> > > > We could call the site: wepower.ca. The URL is available.
> > > >
> > > > Simplicity of the message. Never underestimate it!
> > > >
> > > > Lulu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Jason Comely
> > > > To: jkliggett
> > > > Cc: All
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:55:19 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [All] In Defence of Robert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert, what you said denegrates all of the work that the members of
> GREN and others in our communities have done and dedicated their lives to.
> > > > I'm a lurker to this list (and a member of GREN for several years).
> I just wanted to jump in to the defence of Robert. What impressions I got
> from Robert's email was a sense of humility to the limitations of GREN and
> a show of support and optimism for WREN.
> > > > I was at WRENE2014 last night and I was blown away with the event
> and the positivity in the room. WREN will be different than GREN, but not
> better. WREN is focused on collaborations, technological innovation and
> scaling projects bigger.
> > > > In my mind, GREN exemplifies "the pen being mightier than the sword"
> philosophy and leveraging traditional media. And of course Lulu Lanteigne,
> who is a Canadian legend (I don't say that lightly) and she absolutely
> deserves a Wikipedia page of her own (but I digress).
> > > > What I'm trying to say is this is apples and oranges we're
> comparing. One does not nor cannot take away from the other.
> > > > Back to lurking again.
> > > > Best,
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 10:25:37 -0400, "Jan Liggett" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have an actual link to an official website of WREN
> itself, not the event? I can't seem to find anything.
> > > > > Robert, what you said denegrates all of the work that the members
> of GREN and others in our communities have done and dedicated their lives
> to. It is wonderful that a younger generation understands something the
> rest of us know already. Some of that knowledge is inherent. What they
> don't have is the historical knowledge that we have through actually being
> there. You know the kind of ingrained feeling that makes you skin tingle or
> the hair on the back of your neck rise. The kind of feeling each of us gets
> because we've been there and can't be snowed; the nuances, the semantics.
> > > > > The world needs us and them also.
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Eleanor Grant
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:25 PM
> > > > > To: GREN2
> > > > > Subject: [All] Fwd: #WRENE2014 Update: Network Presenters
> > > > >
> > > > > Is anybody from GREN going to this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Eleanor
> > > > >
> > > > >
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