[All] In Defence of Robert

Jason Comely contact at jasoncomely.com
Fri Mar 28 15:38:43 EDT 2014 

Hi Susan,

There are three reasons why I think Lulu's idea has merit, and that it's
worth pursuiting:

1) I would need the FTP credentials, username and password to access the
GREN website files and make any changes. Do you know them? If not, who
does? Would they entrust that information to me?

2) The concept of wepower.ca is a united voice, not just the voice of
GREN

3) Although $20 isn't insignificant, the  only "real" expenditure is my
time, and the few minutes it might take others to throw together some
copy

Best,

Jason

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:28:00 -0400, "Susan Koswan" wrote:

> I appreciate what you’re both doing here, but we already have the GREN
website, which is underutilized and are already paying for the domain
name etc. etc. Can we save the expense and work with it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Susan K
>
>
>
> From: All [mailto:all-bounces at gren.ca] On Behalf Of Jason Comely
> Sent: March-28-14 3:22 PM
> To: butterflybluelu
> Cc: All
> Subject: Re: [All] In Defence of Robert
>
>
>
> Thanks Lulu. I just purchased the domain (see below).
>
> I'll work on the design. I need the following information for the body
of the web page:
>
> 1) The key demand
>
> 2) Further explanation of the key demand (3-4 paragraphs)
>
> 3) A list of all the groups endorsing the demand
>
> I should be able to manage the rest.
>
>
>
> Like I said, the web page will be online by Saturday night.
>
> Thanks again Lulu, and look forward to contributions from other GREN
members.
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
>
>
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> On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 12:07:07 -0700 (PDT), Louisette Lanteigne wrote:
>
> > Just sent you $20 for the URL. Keep the rest for Tim Horton's. :0)
> >
> > Lulu
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Jason Comely
> > To: butterflybluelu ; All
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:54:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [All] In Defence of Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You are so smart and inspiring Lulu. A great idea. I'm embarrassingly
low on cash, but if people reading this are willing to donate $2 via
PayPal to me, I'll buy the domain and design the website and have it done
and online for everyone to link to by this Saturday night, midnight.
Promise.
> > I'll need about $14 to buy the .ca domain at namespro.ca. Here's my
PayPal email account: contact at jasoncomely.com
> > Best,
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:39:12 -0700 (PDT), Louisette Lanteigne wrote:
> >
> > > Hi folks
> > >
> > > Thanks for your kind words Jason. Your making me blush here, my
goodness.
> > >
> > > There are always hardships before the blessings in life. There is
pain before a baby. There is work before pay. There is the tilling of the
soil before the harvests. Any good result relies on actual work and
patience to see result. It requires us to work within the limits of what
we actually have but when we collaborate we get even better results. That
is what WREN and GREN are doing. GREN is about refining concepts using
science/logic based approaches so we can clarify clear goals to work
towards in regards to policy, political lobbying etc. WREN is the
networking, the crafting of alliances to get physical results happening
within the framework of existing business models because business governs
our society. (In the context of the issues were dealing with.) I am
optimistic about WREN and GREN and the other groups involved. The scale
of collaboration will reflect the scale of the benefits received. That is
exciting stuff. Those are game changers.
> > >
> > > Think how many agencies are linked purely to the networking aspects
of business. We have unions, Chamber of Commerce, trade organizations and
associations, charities like the Rotary Clubs etc. They do this because
it works. The more bees the bigger the buzz. Common sense. Business
thrives on collaboration and they are most effective by keeping their
messages short and sweet. ie: Kill this bill.
> > >
> > > Not much explanation is ever given in the business world because
they don't want it or need it. They simply know they agree on it for
their own business objectives. It's common sense. The environmental
movement desperately needs to do the same thing.
> > >
> > > For the environmental movement, I'd like to see a website. One
single idea posted at the top of a page which is the most simple way to
state a key demand: Save Hidden Valley, Support Provincial Review of Line
9, pass/reject this bill etc. All groups endorsing the idea is listed
underneath. If a group wants to provide a hyperlink as to why they
support the idea, we can provide it. That's it.
> > >
> > > We could call the site: wepower.ca. The URL is available.
> > >
> > > Simplicity of the message. Never underestimate it!
> > >
> > > Lulu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Jason Comely
> > > To: jkliggett
> > > Cc: All
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:55:19 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [All] In Defence of Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert, what you said denegrates all of the work that the members
of GREN and others in our communities have done and dedicated their lives
to.
> > > I'm a lurker to this list (and a member of GREN for several years).
I just wanted to jump in to the defence of Robert. What impressions I got
from Robert's email was a sense of humility to the limitations of GREN
and a show of support and optimism for WREN.
> > > I was at WRENE2014 last night and I was blown away with the event
and the positivity in the room. WREN will be different than GREN, but not
better. WREN is focused on collaborations, technological innovation and
scaling projects bigger.
> > > In my mind, GREN exemplifies "the pen being mightier than the
sword" philosophy and leveraging traditional media. And of course Lulu
Lanteigne, who is a Canadian legend (I don't say that lightly) and she
absolutely deserves a Wikipedia page of her own (but I digress).
> > > What I'm trying to say is this is apples and oranges we're
comparing. One does not nor cannot take away from the other.
> > > Back to lurking again.
> > > Best,
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 10:25:37 -0400, "Jan Liggett" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does anyone have an actual link to an official website of WREN
itself, not the event? I can’t seem to find anything.
> > > > Robert, what you said denegrates all of the work that the members
of GREN and others in our communities have done and dedicated their lives
to. It is wonderful that a younger generation understands something the
rest of us know already. Some of that knowledge is inherent. What they
don’t have is the historical knowledge that we have through actually
being there. You know the kind of ingrained feeling that makes you skin
tingle or the hair on the back of your neck rise. The kind of feeling
each of us gets because we’ve been there and can’t be snowed; the
nuances, the semantics.
> > > > The world needs us and them also.
> > > >
> > > > From: Eleanor Grant
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:25 PM
> > > > To: GREN2
> > > > Subject: [All] Fwd: #WRENE2014 Update: Network Presenters
> > > >
> > > > Is anybody from GREN going to this?
> > > >
> > > > Eleanor
> > > >
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