[All] Focus Group Contact Information Sharing
Robert Milligan
mill at continuum.org
Sat Jul 6 13:15:59 EDT 2013
Hi Josh,
First let me say commend Transition KW for you efforts to create a
local climate change tool kit. Now let me reply to each of your 3
paragraphs.
1. I did not find out about your meetings until the morning of your
second meeting of July 2nd, the one on health. Because time was short,
I tried to reach you through your listed phone number. The person at
the "linked" number said he could not get you a message. So I sent
you an email indicating that I would be attending the 2:00 pm meeting
(with 5 health & climate change references included). I did not just
drop in. However, since nobody indicated that an invitation was
necessary, I decided to attend the next meeting and subsequent ones
because I had unique ideas to contribute in those other areas.
2. I will attend the Food & Agriculture group if there is room. I am
sending Stacey Danckert an mail indicating my intent.
3. Neither a dinner nor beverage/snacks are necessary for any meeting
I attend, But I can have expectations created which I use to plan my
daily eating pattern. The only information I had was about a dinner
provided.
Best regards.
Robert
On 5-Jul-13, at 5:07 PM, Josh Morel wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> I am sorry to hear that the meeting yesterday didn't work out.
> Although we welcome all potential attendees, the focus groups are
> not drop in meetings. In my original email I had asked for a
> response from those willing to attend so we could plan
> appropriately. This is why I did not include the specific meeting
> place in that email.
>
> For the Food & Agriculture group, if you still want to attend please
> confirm with the organizer of that focus group Stacey Danckert (sdanckert at gmail.com
> ). I did let her know that Ginny confirmed she would attend and
> shared her email.
>
> In regards to the other point, originally I had thought it would be
> dinner. However, this did change and in our confirmation emails to
> attendees we indicated that beverage and snacks (not dinner) would
> be provided. It was up to each person to attend or not based on that
> reason.
>
> Sincerely,
> Josh Morel
>
> CC: all at gren.ca
> From: mill at continuum.org
> To: morel.josh at hotmail.com
> Subject: Fwd: Focus Group Contact Information Sharing
> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:39:38 -0400
>
> Hi Josh,
>
> Ginny Quinn and Norah Chaloner, GREN members had indicated you
> needed help in finding additional resource people to attend your
> Climate Change Toolkit sessions. Yet after attending the previous 2
> sessions and making good contributions, when I arrived last night I
> was told your meetings were by invitation only and this session was
> full -- but I could wait to see if there would be space. It became
> too crowded. Fortunately I had another meeting nearby that was also
> valuable that I could attend.
>
> What concerns me is the "invitation only" part. Specifically, if I
> wish to attend your Food & Agriculture (final) session from 2-4 pm
> on Tues. at the Misty Mountain Cafe. Am I -- or any other GREN
> member -- invited if there is room? And what is the dinner
> situation? (see my July 4 query below in the PS)
>
> Best regards,
> Robert
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Robert Milligan <mill at continuum.org>
> Date: July 4, 2013 3:07:02 PM GMT-04:00
> To: Josh Morel <morel.josh at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Focus Group Contact Information Sharing
>
> Hi Josh,
>
> Sharing my contact information is OK:
>
> Robert Milligan
> Grand River Environmental Network AND Independent Sustainability
> IDEAS Catalyst
> mill at continuum.org (and 519-696-2288 -- I welcome exploratory phone
> discussions)
>
> Thanks to you and TKW members for your practical innovative and
> collaborative efforts.
>
> Best regards,
> Robert
>
> PS: In an email that you sent to Norah Chaloner around June 22, you
> said, "The focus group will be 2 hours long and will be held on
> Tuesday July 2 at 2-4PM at a location in downtown Kitchener. Dinner
> will be provided!" This implies the expectation of a meal for
> contributers when one attends a session.
>
> When I arrived on Tues. 10 minutes late, there was some indication
> that some had consumed coffee &/or muffins. Nobody mentioned a meal
> afterwards.
>
> Then when I arrived for a meeting last night, we were told we could
> get a coffee and muffin or something. Glen Woolner of CREW decided
> to get a sandwich and a drink. He mentioned that he was with the
> group in the meeting room. I chose a sandwich and bottled water.
> Would kindly clarify the meal situation. I will at least be
> attending the session tonight on transportation & infrastructure.
>
> On 3-Jul-13, at 9:00 PM, Josh Morel wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Thank you again for making yesterday's climate change focus group so
> interesting.
>
> Some attendees have asked me to see if anyone is agreeable to
> sharing contact information for the purpose of connecting on other
> potential climate change related topics. I have blind CC'd everyone
> on this email and will only release your information by your
> permission. If you are interested, please provide your name,
> affiliation and email you would like to be contacted by. The contact
> list will only be distributed to those who also provided their
> information.
>
> We do also plan on providing information to everyone who attended on
> our analysis of the focus group and survey data.
>
> Sincerely,
> Josh Morel
> On 2-Jul-13, at 10:25 AM, Ginny Quinn wrote:
>
> Hello Josh could you send me more info on Human Health,
> (including diseases, temperature stress , increased frequency and
> severity of extreme weather events). If possible I am also
> interested in info re the Food and Agriculture Focus subjects.
> I need to know what you are seeking to learn and/or confirm,
> regarding specifically both of these subjects.
> Since the water and flooding meeting has already occurred,
> I’d also be interested in a report of the findings and /or
> confirmation of some of the currently viewed topics of concern
> in this area, as well as the proposed potential actions to
> mitigate the damages which continue to endanger this
> generation and all future generations from the inadequate
> actions and lack of knowledge of our paid representatives.
> Yes, our water resources is a VERY important area to work on
> and protect. Thanks Ginny Quinn 519-578-0005 Kitchener.
>
> From: Josh Morel [mailto:morel.josh at hotmail.com]
> Sent: June-27-13 7:39 AM
> To: Louisette Lanteigne; Ginny Quinn; 'Norah Chaloner'; 'GREN'
> Subject: RE: [All] request for help re Waterloo resources.. see bottom
>
> Hello Lulu and Ginny:
>
> These are all very fascinating points. I'm going to look into David
> Rowade and Conestoga College SWMP program. Ginny - I hope your
> grandson is doing okay.
>
> I was wondering if either of you feel you could contribute at one of
> your Focus Groups for the Climate Change Adaptation Toolkit. The
> scope of this project is adaptation to the negative impacts of
> climate change at an indvidual/community level (as opposed to the
> municipal/prov/fed governmental level).
>
> There are five groups each on a different general area. The water
> one already occurred. The upcoming ones are:
> -Human health - July 2, 2-4pm
> -Energy July 3, 7-9pm
> -Food and agriculture July 9, 2-4pm
> -Transportation and Infrastructure, July 4, 7-9pm
>
> If you feel you could contribute in one of these groups and are able
> to attend it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
> Josh Morel
> TransitionKW
> CCAT Project Member
>
> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:45:38 -0700
> From: butterflybluelu at rogers.com
> Subject: Re: [All] request for help re Waterloo resources.. see bottom
> To: ginny at kw.igs.net; nrchaloner at hotmail.com; all at gren.ca
> CC: morel.josh at hotmail.com
> The Region's climate expert David Rowade has noted trends that
> indicate the same annual amount of rainfall in fewer events based on
> data taken from our local weather stations. It's the storm water
> management that we really need to plan for. Calgary just had 6
> months of rainfall in a 2 day period and over the last 10 years,
> they have had two 100 year floods.
>
> Here is an excellent article from the Former Chair of the National
> Roundtable on the Environment and the Economy discussing this fact.
>
> http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/06/24/alberta-flooding-sets-records-prompts-calls-for-action-on-climate-change/
>
> No doubt urban sprawl played into this by paving over their
> watersheds hampering infiltration of water.
>
> When it comes to the criteria for environmental impact studies, be
> it for pipelines, subdivisions or other projects, there is
> currently no manditory test times or methods or standard units of
> measurements that engineering firms are mandated to follow. These
> firms are responsible for gathering the baseline engineering data
> but often times they undermine water risks by avoiding 12 month
> creek studies, proper bore hole depths, they avoid spring thaw etc.
> Unless the baseline testing criteria is standardized to the point it
> can actually secure reasonable data to determine delta water levels,
> then we will continue to see failures in planning processes over and
> over again.
>
> The key to protecting people from bad planning due to floods,
> erosion issues etc. is to secure solid preliminary baseline data
> that accurately reflects the hydrology of an area. We need to
> mandate reasonable testing criteria to follow. Right now it's all
> subjective. Folks can do a one day audit and get a plan approved
> based on that crap. We need standards set to actually mitigate risks
> over the long term.
>
> Lulu :0)
> From: Ginny Quinn <ginny at kw.igs.net>
> To: 'Norah Chaloner' <nrchaloner at hotmail.com>; 'GREN' <all at gren.ca>
> Cc: 'Josh Morel' <morel.josh at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 11:56:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [All] request for help re Waterloo resources.. see bottom
>
> Norah and Josh A few years ago at a Regional or City of
> Kitchener council meeting (can’t remember which one now.... I
> was encouraging (read started pushing for) 200 year SWMPs
> Storm Water Management Ponds, to be put in new developments and
> basically in all new developments: the largest currently one
> done is the 100 year SWMP but many planners and developers don’t
> even want to do that. Based on Hurricane Hazel and Katrina
> and now many more....we absolutely MUST demand 200 year
> SWMPs. NOW, once again we have our very own CALGARY AND
> SURROUNDING AREAS in an emergency flood.
> Our Grandson is a Calgary Firefighter who has been ‘home ‘ this
> past week and does not know the status of his ( ordered to be
> vacated) residence in Calgary as he will fly back tonight
> and of course will be immediately posted to the areas in most need.
> This is a fine example to use Josh..but you will meet with VERY
> STRONG opposition and negativity from the developers and
> planners. Because ENLARGED SWMP size is what they do NOT
> want as it takes up land they want to make profit on, in building
> more houses. This is a very important demand that must be
> promoted and there’s plenty of proof in Climate Change and
> melting of the ice in Alaska. Etc.
> Just thought you might have already wanted to do this but to
> let you know you should FIGHT HARD to get this discussed and
> passed in law by the Region etc.
> The night I attended the meeting about “Run off” charges
> was in Kitchener and the only place at that time that had done
> the 200 year SWMP was Conestoga College.
> Speak to the Environmental Man...I can’t take the time to find
> his card but you’ll know how to contact him at the college.
> Good luck Ginny Quinn.
>
> From: All [mailto:all-bounces at gren.ca] On Behalf Of Norah Chaloner
> Sent: June-22-13 10:10 PM
> To: GREN
> Cc: Josh Morel
> Subject: [All] request for help re Waterloo resources.. see bottom
>
> Hello Folks.. this is an issue for re the K/W region. I am sorry not
> to have forwarded it sooner. Josh needs some help and you folks have
> the answers he is seeking.
> Please copy me if you can pick this up so that I know it has been
> looked after.. I really don't know a lot of the specific resources
> and needs in your area.. That said, we will be setting up a CoC
> chapter again in the fall in K/W. Thanks for your help. Norah
>
> Dear Norah Chaloner:
> I write to you today as a member of TransitionKW. Based on the
> Transition movement started in the UK, TransitionKW brings citizens
> together to build resilience and sustainability within our community
> in the face of the oncoming challenges of climate change and peak
> oil. One of our key projects that I am participating in is the
> creation of a Climate Change Adaptation Toolkit (CCAT) to be used by
> citizens and community groups in the Region of Waterloo to increase
> resilience to climate change and its anticipated impacts.
>
> As the Council of Canadians local chapter contact , our project team
> identified you as a stakeholder in the development of this toolkit.
> For this reason, I ask for your participation in an upcoming focus
> group session. In this focus group we aim to gain from their
> expertise to learn how we can improve our capacity for resilience
> and identify the gaps in emergency preparedness as it relates to the
> area of human health for Waterloo Region.
>
> The focus group will be 2 hours long and will be held on Tuesday
> July 2 at 2-4PM at a location in downtown Kitchener. Dinner will be
> provided!
>
> Please let me know if you will attend, and if so, at which time(s)
> you can come.
> Sincerely,
> Josh Morel
> CCAT Project Team Member
>
> P.S.
> Please also let me know of anyone else you would recommend to
> participation in one of the focus groups. The five focus groups each
> cover one of the following topics:
> · Water resources (including flooding and supply)
> · Human health (including diseases, temperature stress,
> increased frequency and severity of extreme weather events)
> · Food and agriculture
> · Energy
> · Transportation and Infrastructure
>
>
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