[All] junk mailboxes?

Fri Jun 24 09:36:26 EDT 2011

Thanks  everyone for your comments, but Helen had just contacted me (on
behalf of GREN) re the mailbox from an environmental POV - i.e. people
having to drive rather than walk to a mailbox. This discussion is fine but
is evolving into far broader social and political areas that are not going
to be resolved or addressed in this article. 

Susan K

From: Jan [mailto:jkliggett at rogers.com] 
Sent: June-24-11 9:29 AM
To: Len Carter; randybmclean at rogers.com; susankoswan at execulink.com;
all at gren.ca; Judith Lodi
Subject: Re: [All] junk mailboxes?

Good response Len.

While I have a computer, we all know they are down quite often (at least
mine is). Even with firewalls, virus catchers etc.   I do not use the
elctronic version of bill paying nor do I receive invoices by computer.

I use it for imformation gathering purposes, not socially.

Jan Liggett

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From: Len Carter <mailto:len.carter at sympatico.ca>  

To: randybmclean at rogers.com ; J Liggett <mailto:jkliggett at rogers.com>  ;
susankoswan at execulink.com ; all at gren.ca ; Judith Lodi
<mailto:judith.lodi at rogers.com>  

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:00 PM

Subject: RE: [All] junk mailboxes?

Just as a matter of interest you might want to think about the jobs that the
Canada post gives out so generously.  The people that deliver your mail
would love you to use the snail mail version of information transfer. Over
48,000 people are directly impacted by this situation. Each and every one of
them has family and a community that depend on them for food housing taxes
and there participation in organizations just like GREN..  If they do not
have work and do not have incomes they will not have volunteer time and not
be able to coach our kids or be involved and quite frankly they will not be
able to participate in the society that you know and obviously love. They
will not be able to provide the necessities nor have the time or ability to
improve our community, Your community.

Look around you will see roads and houses and parks and dams and bridges and
food in the stores and cars in the driveways and bikes in the garage and
lights on the streets and know that it was working people that put those
things there.  It was the management of the Post Office that put communal
drop boxes in place rather than have door to door delivery.  Posties would
prefer the work and the economy needs the jobs.

Please think about the community without working people before taking a
negative stance.

Len Carter
President
Waterloo Regional Labour Council
130 Highland Road East
Kitchener, Ont.
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From: randybmclean at rogers.com
To: jkliggett at rogers.com; susankoswan at execulink.com; all at gren.ca
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:52:28 -0400
Subject: Re: [All] junk mailboxes?

Mail has changed.  I do not want junk mail and that is considered every
piece of mail  put in my box without my name on it.  That mail does not get
into the system through corner drop boxes.  It does not pay the full price
and, as a marketing tool, I have no use for it.  It is unnecessary weight,
time spent, paper wasted, environmentally degrading JUNK!

Over 80 per cent of the weight of mail I receive in my box is JUNK!.  That
means it never went through a drop box.  Relative to 15  years ago I use the
mail system less than 20 per cent than what I did then.  I invoice only by
email, I pay over 80 per cent of my bills via the internet and I am paid
through direct deposit with confirmation through the internet.  More direct
deposits will come when the need arises and that need has come and the
postal system, when returning back to work, will find less REAL mail to
deliver and need to compensate that volume with cheap JUNK!

The only reason the government is legislating them back to work is to
protect them from themselves.  Also for those elderly people who do not have
internet access, have not been able to switch over, rely on their government
cheques, and who make up the majority of voters.

From: all-bounces at gren.ca [mailto:all-bounces at gren.ca] On Behalf Of Jan
Sent: June-23-11 7:03 AM
To: Susan Koswan; 'gren'
Subject: Re: [All] fewer mailboxes?

I agree with S Lachance on this one.  There has already been a major
reduction over the past 15 years with the availability of mailboxes.  GREN
is supposed to be about the environment.  If you have to drive around to
find a mailbox that is in the area in which you are travelling, that uses
more gas.  They certainly are not at the bus stops either.  Many times I
have a letter (business and personal) in my car for days because I couldn't
find one originally and I end up forgetting about the envelope in the back
seat.  Most main streets on my daily trk do not have the boxes because
planners don't want traffic stopping.

Jan

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From: Susan Koswan <mailto:susankoswan at execulink.com>  

To: 'gren' <mailto:all at gren.ca>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:27 PM

Subject: [All] fewer mailboxes?

Does anyone have comments/concerns about Canada Post reducing the number of
mailboxes? John, do you want to respond to Helen or should I? 

My initial thoughts are that people are using snailmail less, so it seems
justified. I think mailboxes need to be more conveniently located where
people would normally be going anyway - like grocery stores etc. How many
people currently make special trips to the  mailbox nowadays? It seems like
an activity that is built-in with other errands. 

Let me know, ASAP,

Thanks,

Susan K 

I'm writing a story about Canada Post removing 45 mailboxes in KW (ours on
McGarry is leaving.) While this is less stops for the Canada Post truck and
saves them money, I'm concerned more people will drive to a mailbox now. Our
nearest one is going to be at the Westheights plaza.

Do you want to ponder this and give me a call tomorrow?

Helen

Helen Hall 

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Kitchener Citizen - West Edition

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