[All] Fwd: Mike Nickerson & Choosing the Better Path

Robert Milligan mill at continuum.org
Tue Oct 20 15:50:10 EDT 2009


Hi Mike,

I was not able to attend GREN's last meeting as I was at a Bioneers  
conference in Michigan. The below was GREN's decision at that meeting  
which seems very reasonable, all things considered. Perhaps the PIRGs  
(@ waterloo, Laurier & Guelph) could be meeting-organizing-sponsors,  
if not now, then in the future. Sorry but this is the best that I  
could do.

Best wishes,
Robert

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> From: "Susan Koswan" <dandelion at gto.net>
> Date: October 19, 2009 10:04:33 PM GMT-04:00
> To: "'Robert Milligan'" <mill at continuum.org>
> Subject: RE: [All] Mike Nickerson & Choosing the Better Path
>
> Hi Robert,
> I’m afraid we decided to not organize a public speaking event with  
> Mike at this time. A concern raised was that he’s not well enough  
> known to be the “star” of a public event and GREN really isn’t in  
> the position to do any justice to sponsoring, promoting etc. Can you  
> please let  Mike know that we’re sorry but we’ll have to pass this  
> time around.
>
> Thanks,
> Susan K
>
> From: all-bounces at gren.ca [mailto:all-bounces at gren.ca] On Behalf Of  
> Robert Milligan
> Sent: September-23-09 2:52 AM
> To: * GREN
> Subject: [All] Mike Nickerson & Choosing the Better Path
>
> Hi All & esp. John,
>
> The Mike Nickerson speaking tour was not put on last meeting's  
> agenda -- it was pretty full -- as was requested. How do people feel  
> about inviting Mike Nickerson to speak this Fall? This is what I  
> wrote previously: "It seems that arrangements have made by some  
> group for Mike to speak In Cambridge on Thursday Oct 22 for lunch  
> re: his new fall tour. This may suit some in GREN. Others who may  
> wish to hear Mike might  find K/W on Monday Nov 16 in the evening  
> (still open) more suitable. How do GREN members feel? Perhaps John  
> could put Mike's tour & a possible K/W stop on next meeting's  
> agenda." Mike -- who has been involved in the Green Party of Canada  
> for over 20 years -- is always very interesting. A GREN sponsored
> public meeting featuring him could serve as an outreach of GREN to  
> the general community. If there is no interest at this time, I will  
> let him know.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
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>
> From: Robert Milligan <mill at continuum.org>
> Date: September 8, 2009 3:13:21 PM GMT-04:00
> To: GREN <all at gren.ca>
> Cc: Mike Nickerson <sustain5 at web.ca>
> Subject: Fwd: Choosing the Better Path
>
> FYI.  Maybe Susan K. could help again on this or?
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
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> From: Mike Nickerson <sustain5 at sympatico.ca>
> Date: September 8, 2009 9:04:07 AM GMT-04:00
> To: Robert Milligan <mill at continuum.org>
> Subject: Re: Choosing the Better Path
>
> Hi Robert:
>
>             Thanks for forwarding this.
>
>             Yes the time for the Question has arrived.  Some time in  
> assembling a good foundation promises to make this fall's move much  
> more effective.  That said, broad brush criticism of corporations  
> would be unnecessarily provokative.  The Sustainability Project is,  
> after all, a corporation, non-profit as it happens, but a body  
> constituted by law.  Thanks to being corporate, which to a large  
> extent means accountable, in that where we get money from and what  
> we spend it on can be investigated as a part of our charter.   
> Because we are so accountable, we were awarded a Student Work  
> contract which hired a student for us for 6 weeks.   We could not  
> have afforded such help, but due to Greg's work, we now have audio  
> and AV material on our site and have learned the skills to produce  
> more.  (You can find the material at the top of the "Articles" link  
> at http://www.SustainWellBeing.net   These will be posted on the  
> front page of a new web site, which Greg also produced for us, along  
> with teaching me to use DreamWeaver so that I can link up the other  
> 200 or so pages from the old site.  All to be launched with the  
> Question of Direction later this month, Gaia willing.
>
>             All of which is to say that not all corporations are  
> evil.  THose that are are huge & we are best to gather voices for  
> the Question of Direction without troubling them as to our efforts.   
> If we are successful & stirring up the discussion, they will become  
> aware when the process is moving with such energy that it can  
> withstand their power to bend popular perception through the media.
>
>             It would be great if GREN could arrange an event for  
> Nov. 16.  The Rotary event would require that people get an  
> invitation from a member of the club.  It wouldn't likely be hard to  
> do, but it isn't just a show up event.
>
>             Thanks again for your interest.
>
>                         Yours, Mike N.
>
> Hi All,
>
> It seems that arrangements have made by some group for Mike to speak
> In Cambridge on Thursday Oct
> 22 for lunch re: his new fall tour.  This may suit some in GREN.
> Others who may wish to hear Mike might  find K/W on Monday Nov 16 in
> the evening (still open) more suitable. How do GREN members feel?
> Perhaps John could put Mike's tour & a possible K/W stop on next
> meeting's agenda.
>
> Mike appears to be moving towards a more critical position re: the
> negative effects that corporations are
> having, especially with his first paragraph below. (He still needs
> more courage to enable him to actually
> use the word corporation in a critical statement.)
>
> I especially like his greater emphasis on the concept of DIRECTION.
> This is not an easy challenge since
> most people seem content with some combination of World destruction
> and acting like brownian movement
> (http://science.howstuffworks.com/brownian-movement-info.htm
> ). A relatively small number of educated moderates of our species seem
> to have some idea of where we are going (an H2S future?) but little
> idea of where we should go beyond the necessary but not sufficient,
> sustainability/resilience (S/R).  To move from this penultimate S/R
> purpose to a tentative ultimate one -- likely related to the Evolution
> of Consciousness (check out theoretical physicist Sir Roger Penrose on
> consciousness) -- we humans need to increase our effective brain
> power. This implies that we must best use the great unique variety &
> diversity (as in Ashby's Law of Requisite Variety & the concept of
> Biodiversity) of the planet's willing & able. In part this can be
> achieved through massive internet collaboration & cooperation so as to
> create a Global Neuro-Net or Designed Noosphere. Very approximately,
> Mike "seems" to want to take steps towards that future, i.e. to create
> an optimal participatory DIRECTION creation tool to discover/invent/
> formulate a tentative Ultimate Direction (Purpose, Value, Need,..) for
> all evolving life. Again, more courage can  be invaluable.
>
> Best wishes,
> Robert
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Mike Nickerson <sustain5 at web.ca>
> Date: September 7, 2009 10:46:59 AM GMT-04:00
> To: Mike Nickerson <sustain5 at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Choosing the Better Path
>
>
>                         "Our ignorance is not so vast as our failure  
> to use what we know."
>
>                                  M.K. Hubbert
>
> Greetings:
>
>             It is no longer legitimate to seek economic health by  
> turning ever
> greater quantities of natural resources into consumer products and
> expecting people to dutifully buy and dispose of them all.  Nor is
> it valid to bid up the prices of stocks, bonds and commodity futures
> and pretend that it makes everyone better off.  The suffering that
> results from resource conflicts and shortages, pollution and
> financial instability have to be addressed at a fundamental level.
>
>             A review is needed of the goal that drives our wasteful  
> system.
> Reviewing the goals of society is not considered newsworthy,
> however.  A book launch is.  With the launch of the second edition
> of "Life, Money and Illusion; Living on Earth as if we want to stay"
> the Sustainability Project will initiate the Question of Direction.
>
>             "What are we trying to accomplish as a society?"  "Is it  
> really our
> collective will to grow until we drop?  Or do we seek to secure
> satisfying lives for our children's children and the families they
> will want to raise?"
>
> You can help get such a review rolling.
>
>             We aim to begin with the Fall Equinox (September 22,) a  
> day during
> which all of humanity experiences an equal amount of daylight.  New
> Society Publishers will have released the new edition of "Life,
> Money and Illusion" by then.
> <  http://www.newsociety.com/bookid/4057 >
>
>             Imagine how the conventional wisdom would change if this  
> choice was
> publicly discussed and people became aware of each other’s feelings
> on the matter.  A summary of how the conventional wisdom leads
> cultural evolution is expressed in this 2 min. 43 sec. clip from one
> of my talks:
> <  http://www.houndbite.com/?houndbite=14316  >
>
> Ways you can help:
>
>             Numerous events are already scheduled across Ontario.
> You can:
>
> A) Add your group, local school or campus to our launch schedule or
> pass this on to others who may be able to do so.
>             There are still a few openings in our fall tour.  The  
> events
> presently confirmed, and the open time slots are listed at:
> http://www.SustainWellBeing.net/launch_events.html
>
>             We will be in Ottawa, Kingston, Toronto, London, North  
> Bay and many
> places in between.  If we are passing near you and have an opening,
> we would welcome additional places to share what has become a very
> timely message.  (You are, of course, welcome to participate in
> discussions already scheduled.)
>             A letter you can share with teachers or professors about  
> our
> message and the importance of sharing the sustainability vision with
> young adults is available at:
> <  http://www.SustainWellBeing.net/students.html  >
>
>             If you have any trouble accessing either of these Web  
> Pages, we
> would be happy to forward their content in an email.
>
> B) Prepare to bring the Question of Direction to media attention.
>
>             If you know of particular media or journalists who would  
> be
> interested in covering the "story" about the Launch and the
> discussion about society's goals, tell us who they are and send
> their contact information, if possible.  If you know any of these
> contacts personally, give them a heads up that the time is
> approaching for a story of broad popular interest and consequences.
>
> C) We will also be looking for places to stay at some points along
> our route, and as always, we could be more effective if we had more
> resources to work with, so donations are always welcome.  If you
> could help with either, please let us know.
>
>
>             All issues related to natural resources and waste along  
> with many
> conflicts are aggravated by human efforts to feed continued
> expansion.  All such issues would be improved if we collectively
> acknowledged that our planet is limited.  Accepting this reality,
> respecting it as we plan for the future and celebrating the wonders
> that living offers, is a path that we can choose.
>
>             Your cooperation in stimulating discussion about the  
> choice is much
> appreciated.
>
>             Looking forward.
>
>                         Yours, Mike Nickerson
>                         and Donna Dillman
>                         Sustainability Project/7th Generation  
> Initiative
>
>
>             "The goals we pursue are the seeds from which our future  
> grows."
>
> http://www.SustainWellBeing.net
>
>
> Sustainability Project - 7th Generation Initiative
> RR #3
> Lanark, Ontario
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> phone: (613) 259-9988
> email: sustain5 at web.ca
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